Anyway, where's the evidence for your claim? I see none. Other than the fanciful idea that Senators in safe seats love resigning in a huff when they don't get their way on legislation.
Yeah, Senators don't get upset when their number one agenda over the past five years is crushed by their own White House,
Nope.
Nothing to do with it.
You're wearing blinders if you think it had nothing to do with it.
But, then, most Obama supporters are wearing blinders these days.
s5 said:
In other words, you have no evidence, other than gut feeling and some insult involving blinders. Got it.
Yeah, I haven't read any interviews with him or watched his rage after getting screwed by the White House.
It's not an insult. You showed your lack of understanding of what was going on when you continued to say, over and over, that there would be a public option, while the White House worked against one.
FearTheReaper said:
Yeah, I haven't read any interviews with him or watched his rage after getting screwed by the White House.
Okay then it should be really easy for you to post a link as evidence. When I said "where's the evidence for your claim?" it was an actual question. Where's your evidence? Make a claim, post a link. Persuade me that you're right.
It's not an insult. You showed your lack of understanding of what was going on when you continued to say, over and over, that there would be a public option, while the White House worked against one.
I'll concede that my prediction was wrong, but it was prediction based on analysis of who the players were and who was asserting leverage at the time (like Rep. Grijalva), not "lack of understanding". And interesting that you would follow up "It's not an insult" with ... an insult. Well done.
You may have also missed how in nearly all of my posts on the public option, there's an undercurrent of "here are the people pushing for it, get behind them and help support them, we could totally win this". Call me crazy but if you want to see something pass, making people feel like it's doomed no matter what and pointless to even try is a self-fulfilling prophesy.
I guess. I mean, he explicitly said on the Ed Show that it had nothing to do with polling. So, I guess you'd be right.
It's probably a combo of both, witch I doubt you want to hear, because Obama's on the ball.
All I know, is that he was enraged when the White House moved against him on drug importation, then he retired. Without telling the White House first. So, I guess he had a great relationship with them.
While some sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats' massive healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008.
A new figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
While some sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats' massive healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008.
A new figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
Isn't his push for healthcare reform a bit of biting the hand that feeds?
While some sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats' massive healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008.
A new figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
Isn't his push for healthcare reform a bit of biting the hand that feeds?
Millions of people are going to be forced to buy their crappy product. There are no substantial cost controls, and the insurance companies are only being forced to eliminate the most egregious and heartless of their practices. This is change the insurance industry can believe in.
While some sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats' massive healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008.
A new figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
Isn't his push for healthcare reform a bit of biting the hand that feeds?
Millions of people are going to be forced to buy their crappy product. There are no substantial cost controls, and the insurance companies are only being forced to eliminate the most egregious and heartless of their practices. This is change the insurance industry can believe in.
hows this for a guess everyone in america is forced to buy health insurance,profits and stock values go higher than ever seen,4-5 years later when the mandates are enforced insurance co.s take chapter 13,the major stockholders have allready sold out at a profit ,the ceo`s have allready sold their options ,their job is to bankrupt the company now,millions of people are at risk ,this is when we must be saved by congress.
While some sunlight has been shed on the hefty sums shoveled into congressional campaign coffers in an effort to influence the Democrats' massive healthcare bill, little attention has been focused on the far larger sums received by President Barack Obama while he was a candidate in 2008.
A new figure, based on an exclusive analysis created for Raw Story by the Center for Responsive Politics, shows that President Obama received a staggering $20,175,303 from the healthcare industry during the 2008 election cycle, nearly three times the amount of his presidential rival John McCain. McCain took in $7,758,289, the Center found.
Isn't his push for healthcare reform a bit of biting the hand that feeds?
Millions of people are going to be forced to buy their crappy product. There are no substantial cost controls, and the insurance companies are only being forced to eliminate the most egregious and heartless of their practices. This is change the insurance industry can believe in.
hows this for a guess everyone in america is forced to buy health insurance,profits and stock values go higher than ever seen,4-5 years later when the mandates are enforced insurance co.s take chapter 13,the major stockholders have allready sold out at a profit ,the ceo`s have allready sold their options ,their job is to bankrupt the company now,millions of people are at risk ,this is when we must be saved by congress.
s5 said:
It's designed so that groups (like unions and corporations) will stop overpaying premiums, so people will instead get that same money as wages when contracts are negotiated.
Or, you know, the fact that the insurers make more per unit profit on individual policies. Gee, never saw that coming in conjunction with "individual mandates."
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