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unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

AUG 02, 2009 06:38 PM

Hey guys, racial tension is viral. Once you get that huff and puff of your chest you probably put it on someone else who now has to blows his or her own steam off on some other hapless soul. Even if you're feeling all chilled out now you kept the bug going around. Good job! Someone else will get it and so and so on. I'm sure that little virus has a little bit of my DNA in it too.

I'm sorry I missed this enlightening thread about whose fault this incident of racial tension is caused by and stoked by but I personally approve of Obama's solution of trying to calm people down long enough to speak normally. Also I don't think Obama owes an apology to anyone for his carefully chosen words getting taken out of context by virtually everyone already involved in some level of experiences of racial tension. I don't think Obama orchestrated this to bring people together. Rather the media made it his issues so he took the responsibility they handed to him. He's doing fine.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

USA
January 2007

AUG 02, 2009 06:47 PM

Stiles said:

SergeantPsycho said:
Race wouldn't have been a factor if Gates hadn't started yelling about it. Can we please stop playing the race card?



Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Crowley stated in his police report that Lucia Whalen (the white woman who made the 911 call) described the two suspicious people as "black". Crowley brought up race, blaming her for racial profiling.

She did no such thing, and the 911 tape proves it.


In his police report, Sgt. James Crowley portrayed Whalen as a racial profiler by saying she had told him that the two men at Gates’s door were black. She denied it, and the audio tape of her original call backs her up: she had told the dispatcher (only when asked) that one of the men “looked kind of Hispanic” and that she couldn’t see the other. Yet Whalen, who was pilloried as a racist because of Crowley’s report, received no apology from him...



Crowley lied on the record in order to "play the race card". Are you going to complain about his dishonesty and stoking racial tension?

No?



I'm not exactly how identifying the race of possibly burglars counts as playing the race card. If you're trying to catch someone, then identifying the person's ethnicity, a prominent feature, would help other police officers identifying him. On the other hand, Gates' response to the officer, "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" is definitely playing the race card, as is Obama claiming that race is still a factor. I have to wonder though, if Obama would consider "race a factor" in instances of Black-on-White crime.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

AUG 02, 2009 06:56 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

I'm not exactly how identifying the race of possibly burglars counts as playing the race card. If you're trying to catch someone, then identifying the person's ethnicity, a prominent feature, would help other police officers identifying him.



That would be true if he had actually been informed that the "intruder" was black. He wasn't. He made it up.

ARRR!!!

Stiles

Stiles

Oakland, CA
November 2002

AUG 02, 2009 07:59 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

I'm not exactly how identifying the race of possibly burglars counts as playing the race card.




Crowley lied on his police report and attempted to shift the blame of racial profiling on an innocent witness.

That is playing the race card, chuckles.

What's your next woefully moronic observation?

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

AUG 04, 2009 08:09 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
I'm not exactly how identifying the race of possibly burglars counts as playing the race card. If you're trying to catch someone, then identifying the person's ethnicity, a prominent feature, would help other police officers identifying him.



It's unfortunate, then, that "race" or "person's ethnicity" is almost totally a social construct.

...and it sure as fuck isn't a helpful observation when it's some neighbor from hundreds of feet away.

...and it's even worse (although only for the purposes of your point having any support whatsoever) that the 911 call (a matter of public record that you can listen to) not only makes clear that the woman didn't want to describe them by "race," but that when pressed to by the 911 operator, she haltingly describes them as "hispanic."

Seriously, Sarge. Read something.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

AUG 04, 2009 08:11 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
I'm not exactly how identifying the race of possibly burglars counts as playing the race card.



The rhetorical impact of numerous typos and errors is the suggestion that you don't take your own argument seriously, nor those of the people with whom you are discussing the topic.


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