NEWS: The Biggest Failure of All

There is always going to be global climate change. You don't have to be a scientist to notice, unless your that dense and spend all your days inside a mall, then I guess you wouldn't notice. The winters are getting warmer, and the summers are getting cooler. The birds migratory patterns are all off, and flowers are blooming when they shouldn't.

Yeah, things are changing. I for one am making changes, every little bit helps.

Oh, and I think an ice age is coming, not in our lifetime per se, but one is coming, global warming always proceeds global cooling, even if some of the ice caps/shelfs are melting.

Uh, you do realize that rearing livestock produces more greenhouse gas than transportation, right? It was reported in a pretty well-known UN study.

i think her point was that it's not really cow activity that's the cause. cattle populations are large--large enough to have a serious environmental impact--because humans keep them that way. generally, when people say "well, cow farts have a bigger impact on the environment than cars do", they're trying to show that the amount of greenhouse gasses being released into the atmosphere is 'natural' and therefore okay. i think Vermin was, among other things, pointing out that it's neither.

This video really sums it up perfectly. Whether you believe in climate change/global warming as a natural cycle, a human-caused event, or merely a human-enhanced event, the risk of DOING NOTHING is WAAAAAY more dangerous than making some necessary sacrifices that could either seriously reduce the amount of change we'll have to deal with, slow the process enough that humans can better adjust to it, or simply cause us to live in a world where we think a lot harder about how we impact the planet because we nearly had a global catastrophe & we don't want that to actually come to bear.

As mankind makes more progress into space and extraterrestrial colonization (which is an argument for a different day!) we need to think like this in case we eventually find more Earth-like planets or develop technology to make Earth-similar planets more habitable.

I'm willing to buckle down personally on a large part of my quality of life/habits if it means I could keep at least my corner of Earth fairly nice for my sisters' kids & my future clones.

Please read this.

/miss Flux.

That four quadrant decision matrix makes sense, but many contrary voices go in another direction.

Rush Limbaugh once said,

Our modern age would not exist without affordable and plentiful energy, and if we desire this way of life to continue then energy must remain abundant and cheap. Rush is correct.

Unfortunately, most everything else he said is factually incorrect (coal, not oil, is more plentiful in the US), or, italics are mine, ignominiously wrong headed.

There is nothing wrong in using energy conservatively! Developing clean energy sources (so less environmental remediation is required) and using less of it is a sound business decision.

If you run a factory, and can make twenty more gizbatches than your competition while using the same amount of energy (and producing fewer toxins in the process) then you will remain in business, and the nitwits down the street who, perhaps, have taken Rush's words to heart, may end up looking for other jobs.

Gizbatches are so last year. Anyone who's anyone is using the iGizbatch app on their cracked iPhone.

I don't believe that the conservative (key word!) Republican party can be so against conservation of resources & therefore an economic bulwark against the coming Resource Rush in North America.

of course not, but my neighbor beating my kid isint affecting the world, and that neighbor could be stopped. This wont be stopped and it affects everyone. Hence i dont give a shit

the horrible things posted by FTR have not happened yet...... the earths temp has raised a couple degrees, not enough to bother my life yet

(hangs head in shame)

Never could understand their position on this issue ... it's in their name, dammit!

This article is not quite what it seems on first glance. That figure is for the totality of the livestock industry, not just what the animals pump out. A good overview can be found at New Scientist.

Agriculture represents about 40% of methane production and about 12.5% of overall greenhouse gas ouput by sector

The FAO report has become a primary source for fascist vegetarians to wave at people when they scream everyone should be vego, even though the authors of the FAO report specificalyl state this is not an option and point out that vego production is not necessarily environmentally friendly either.

Generally one ofthe problems with climate change is that every green ratbag under the sun has found an excuse to push their bandwagon using it. Hence all the carry one about animals when in the grand scheme of things they are only a small part of the probnlem. Another is the way that the greens are still opposed to nuclear power even when distinguished environmentalists like James Lovelock are arguing it is the only option available to prevent catastrophic climate change.

If the ratbag greenies would stop trying to use climate change as all their christmasses come at once to get every fascist policy their wetdreams have produced it would not be so easy for the rightwing ratbags to confuse the issue in order to protect their vested interests in fossil fuels.

'Useless' is the least inflammatory pejorative that comes to mind.

Your understanding of how people interact isn't necessarily the case.

At the root of all social action is individual action, and this ripples outward into the larger realm of family, community, town, county, state, country, and world.

Get enough individuals doing a thing in common purpose, and change is the result. To abdicate your personal responsibility in this chain ... what would you call it?

People who don't believe in global warming at this point are basically a religion, so there is no reason to attempt to "convince" you with a reasoned argument. People like you have been ignoring overwhelming facts for years, hence the idiot remarks.

Maybe you missed the part in the article where I wrote about my degree.

What, you want us to believe, you are intelligent and funny at the same time? What are you some kind of mutant?????

Have they found new evidence on what's causing colony collapse disorder in bees? Last I heard the most likely culprit was a pathogen, with climate change as a possible indirect contributor (as, upon close reading, is stated in the OP).

You don't have to be all lovey-dovey with Mother Nature & hug every single tree you pass to just GIVE A DAMN about what happens to the planet once you're gone.

True, you may not have children in your life. Odds are, someone you care about may. Do it for them.

Maybe you don't really like people. Fine. We'll extend this to animals/plants too. There has to be something about life you enjoy. Beer, paintball, YouTube, sleeping in.....To the best of our knowledge, it was all invented solely on Planet Earth. Why not keep a good thing rolling?

If you're just a flat out nihilist who despises everything about existence including yourself & your ability to philosophize about the futility of it all? Well, what's the point of draggin' your feet on this, then? You could ironically support environmental reform or find some other way to take yourself out of the human population & save us the resources it takes up to let you be apathetic 24/7.

Not advocating a mass suicide, but that WOULD make a hell of a dent in our carbon footprint......

Oh, news just showed the next one:
Jellyfishes are among the winners of global warming and are terrorizing southern europes coasts.

The overfishing is partially responcible, too, but the warmer water (Oceam temperature, that is clima, not the weather behind my window) clearly helps their population too, as can be shown by the fact that Portuguese man o' war travel as far north as UK now (despide the name they are actually supposed live around Australia, in the Pacific and Indian Ocean).

Not only that, but a lot of the things we need to do to address global climate change are in fact things that we need to be doing whatever may be coming down the road. Things like finding ways of replacing oil both as energy source and as a building block in material goods - climate change or no climate change, oil is running out.