NEWS: Soon The Supreme Court Will Destroy America

Party = socialize = socialist

Right, because there aren't multiple plans currently being discussed. Dude, nothing is free. We pay for it in taxes of all sorts - sales, income, property, fuel, etc. I may not have some fancy, college diploma, but I'm not a fucking idiot.

You're right, I believe our government doesn't do anything illegal. Oh wait, I forgot, you don't recognize things like The Patriot Act or the illegal wiretapping the Bush Administration was doing.


20%? It is currently less than half of that.. Considering tariffs and taxes of some sort have existed in the U.S. since the late 1700s, why is any tax news to you? Did you know that During the Reagan Era, the top level of the tax brackets paid nearly 50% of their income to federal income tax?

You're right, I believe our government doesn't do anything illegal. Oh wait, I forgot, you don't recognize things like The Patriot Act or the illegal wiretapping the Bush Administration was doing.

50 years ago, old school conservatives wanted to keep black people as second class citizens. What is your point? The world changes.

What? Don't care about the poor? Why the fuck do the "neolibs" want to give them health care and lower tax rates? You're right, to fuck the poor right in their broke asses.

Y'all come back now, ya hear?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we've not heard the last of your delusions.

That's an unfair analogy, bean, there's way more than one retarded kid in this thread.

Plus, people with MR tend to have social skills.

And virtually no one in this thread can claim they have that with a straight face.

Nah; I'd defend a retarded kid.

-Last one, I promise

Thank you for cementing what I said...Open Wikipedia and type in "Boston tea party" I bet your face will turn red.

Toodles

Do you mean this part? [emphasis added]

Actually, the Wikipedia entry you cite backs motorfirebox's assertion, not yours.

The protest was not about taxation, it was about lack of representation.

No taxation without representation!

looks like sick is faster on the draw this afternoon...

Where's our shooting fish in a barrel avatar?

The next part is even better, don't you think?

i checked Wikipedia, among other sources, before i typed up my reply. perhaps you should do the same--only, keep reading past the first time you see the word "tax".

at least you didn't use Michele Bachmann's "representation with taxation" line.

This thread is full of win.

This may be the "Laydeez, may I fist you?" of the CE boards.

Every time I come to read this thread, I can't believe what has happened.

You just made me spew tea all over my keyboard

yeah but it explains to all of us living overseas how Bush managed to butt fuck the country for so long and still get people to vote and support him: deliberate pig-fuckin' ignorance

There is quite a bit of willful ignorance here. I recommend reading Sarah Palin's facebook page. It's astounding.

My head is about to explode, but have been reading an interesting wiki on the subject, and believe FTR is right .... we should be concerned.

I see a bit of a shell game going on, because Citizen's United's lawyers are focusing on the "freedom of speech vs. regulation" side of the argument, which is a difficult balance, and not saying much about the rest of the goodies their looking for.

I am very concerned that we'd end up in a situation where it would be difficult or impossible to find out who is financing "the message", and this doesn't appear a good thing for democracy.

er, i don't want to come across as defending people like midnightblue69, but his sort of ignorance is hardly a uniquely American phenomenon. you can argue that there's a difference in scale, comparing the US to the rest of the western world over the past decade, and there's certainly a difference in the ramifications of that ignorance over the same time period. but blindly clinging to ideology in the face of stark evidence of how wrong you are is pretty much universal.

It is the main reason I've not weighed in. There are so many simultaneous trainwrecks that it frankly just isn't worth it to try and sort any of the wrong out.

Fool's errand. Hopefully the (apparently bottomless) momentum of stupidity (left and right) will finally slow and come to a rest.

Like Bill Hicks said, "Piece of shit, walk away."

The basic holding of the court is that corporations are recognized individual entities and thusly are entitled to the same protections guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, chiefly first amendment speech protections.

This is one of the problems of "judicial precedent" and "stare decisis" --- a lot of times the court gets an original ruling "wrong." (See Dred Scott, Carrie Buck, etc...)

The "correct" position of the court and "unbiased jurists" is to uphold prior rulings. Anything else is "judicial activism." The left and right both claim the other secretly want to overrule any number of prior holdings and is engaged in some kind of sideways attempt to have a silent, well plotted coup. Blah, blah, blah, blah, rinse, repeat, continue. It is like "the battle for the courts" is the only acceptable "conspiracy theory" that is allowed to be articulated in public.

...But no conspiracies happen. Everything is random.

It is like everyone with a political agenda can accept that overturning legal precedent is okay when it follows their pet agenda, and any attempt to overrule prior rulings that they agree with is unrepresentative judicial tyranny.

All of this unavoidable (politicizing the Federal courts) bullshit was foreseen, was debated endlessly, was hashed out in the first Constitutional convention, was fought over incredibly in the Federalist/anti-Federalist papers, and the door was left wide open in Marbury v. Madison. It is the main reason you have amendment IX and X in the Bill of Rights, to appease those who foresaw the abuse of federal courts fucking with the people which was GUARANTEED to happen.

So two centuries later, and bad decision after bad decision, we've got what we've got - and the only real solution is to deny the federal courts the ability to inflict any more damage on the various States.

Absolutely! However I think our compulsory voting here in Oz forces the vast majority of people to stay a little more aware. We still have our loonies, but they don't seem to be mainstream like they are in the GOP.