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oy vey. Do I have to explain this again? Here, I'll be slow so you can understand it.
I do not disagree with spaying or neutering your pets. I, however, believe that if you want to serilize your pets, AND you are worried about abusing your pets, you should be worried about finding a more humane way that ISNT castration. I personally couldnt care if you went around lobbing off their nutsacks with a butcher knife.
I told you my statement was a generalization based on personal observation. Contrary from what you can get through your thick skull. I'm not speaking FOR society, I'm speaking AGAINST it. Hopefully you can understand that
Do I understand that spaying and neutering keeps the population down? Yes. However, you completely ignored my point that, if you can keep a human from reproducing with a small incision, why do we completely remove an animals testicles? I dont see a problem with piercing a cats ear. If its done intelligently (which is apparently not the case for the above issue) While I'm sure "because everyone believes it" means its true for you, I've personally, realized from history. That things are only true until they are proven false.
You accuse me of not reading any links. However, I've completely followed each link, as I fully enjoy learning new things. However, you have not presented anything "new" other than "we've gotta do it cuz theirs too many of em!"
I refuse to respond to any more posts from you. If I do, I'm probably just going to get myself kicked out of the forums.


As for the song-bird eating. I believe that bird-eating is natural to cats. And if the bird gets sick and ties. Well theres natures population control. I like my cat, but she's still an animal.

That would be a good point of large numbers of small cats were natural for anywhere, but they aren't Those populations are human creations and thus they wreak havoc on the wild animals.

:applause:

Glad to see that ended well. (...Hopefully.)

Regarding the overall topic, I'm pretty much on board with the following. Spaying/Neutering, trimming birds wings, microchipping, tail-docking only in cases of medical necessity (like the Mynx cat) = Okay.
Modifications that ARE NOT connected to the animal's health and well-being, (or the health and well-being of its offspring) - such as de-clawing, piercing, ear-docking, and so forth = Not Okay.

As the dominant race in a world where domestic animals DO exist, it is our responsibility to watch out for those who otherwise would not be able to watch out for themselves. If what you're doing to the animal doesn't fall into that description, you shouldn't do it. DUH. Why is this point even being argued against??

I'm confused.

Clearly you think that spaying/neutering is abuse, because you're recommending that someone concerned with accidentally abusing their animals considers an alternate procedure.

But you open that paragraph by saying you agree with spaying/neutering.

And then you close the paragraph saying that you couldn't care (less?) if people cut off the balls of their animals.

When you say "we as a society..." you're speaking for society. There's really no way around this. You should either revise your language, or drop the bad grammar ruse and reveal yourself as an omniscient being that actually can authoritatively speak for society.

That's not a point. That's a question. It also has nothing to do with the current issue.

Man, but... what if like a giant race of, well giants I guess, came in and picked you up and said "ooooooh cute" and shoved an earring through your ear whether you liked it or not?!

I'd like to see an intelligent example of someone piercing an animal's ear, versus an unintelligent one.

Take your time, I'll wait.

That is correct. Things are only true until they're proven false. You know what else? A road ends when there's no more road there, a person is alive until they're not alive anymore, it's Tuesday until it's Wednesday, and a bachelor is a bachelor until he gets married. Those things are all correct. Very astute.

Let's recap.

You're okay with cutting your cat's balls off.

You're also okay with piercing your cat's ears.

You're also okay with allowing your cat to get sick and die.

I'm really quite glad you own that cat.

Then you would have learned this:

or this:

or this

or this

you do realize there is more than tits and ass on the internet right? That maybe if you aren't personally capable of understanding why something is the way it is, you can search for it on the internet.

If you have your male dog neutered, it usually means you have no desire to breed the dog. The testicles are removed to prevent things like testicular cancer or prostate cancer. If the dog isn't planning on using his testicles anyway, leaving them on the dog only creates another outlet for a life threatening disease. So bullshit on you that you read any of those links.

Your own damn link tells you why

Hey Look! There is too many of them!

and now on to your next subject of ignorance. Cats are natural predators to animals like birds, however cats are not native to the United States

Your cat is an introduced species, it was never there naturally. Nature has nothing to do with it. Human intervention does.

You FAIL to understand once again, that a housecat is not a wild animal, it's an animal introduced into our ecosystem by humans.

Yes cutting the testicles off is abuse. They should breed and be hunted and shot, that's much more effective and non-abusive.

Keep your cat indoors, or get it neutered, it's not a natural species to your area and can aid in the extinction of animals that are natural to your area.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Fail, I will fear no trolls; for DevilsReject art with me.

Exactly!

Why did you quote me as saying all of that? You're supposed to be quoting deathadder.

Quite right. I'm of the opinion that if the reason for docking the dog's tail is no longer relevant because the animal has become a house pet, then don't do it. However, if the dog is still engaged in the work it was meant to do, and its tail puts it at risk, then the procedure is still valid.
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I earlier said I couldn't think of a practical reason for ear clipping, and that it seems to be a purely cosmetic procedure to make the animal more intimidating. In looking into it, I found why guard dogs' ears were originally clipped: an upright ear has a hearing advantage over a floppy ear.

Sorry! I quoted what was above me and deleted out the vegetarian thing, and it seems the wrong name!
I fail at this post editing thing!

I didn't say it was right. I only meant that a belief that it improves hearing and directionality is the historical basis for the procedure.

And since most people with "guard dog" breeds aren't actually using them as real guard dogs, despite what they claim, it's not much of an excuse.

Well, I sure stand corrected!

Because it's not free.

Freedom costs a buck o fiiiiiiiiiiiiiive!

You're such a saucy wench.