Al-Qaeda Second-In -Command Calls Obama "House Negro"

you're right, racism is alive and well in america. i think one of the real differences between racism here and in other parts of the worlds is that racism tends to be less open and more, dare i even say it, institutionalized here. it's a huge problem, and even though we've made a lot of progress in the last few years/decades, there is still a lot of work to do.

i wasn't trying to be offensive, and if i was, i apologize.

Racism in the US and other parts of the world is miles and miles apart, and not just literally. Granted, the atrocities of the frontier days, the brutal lynchings and overt physicality of segregation (separate water fountains, buses, etc.) was as visceral a part of our history as you can get, but by and large the racism we see today in our own communities pales in comparison to what goes on in other regions, where it is not widely reported.
Feel like you were discriminated against today?
Not long ago, in this wondrous part of the world, a little girl ( about 12 I think) strolled into a local police station one morning and walked up to the front desk. None of the officers paid her much mind, and failed to notice the vest of explosives she wore, custom fit to her small frame. The bomb didn't detonate as planned, and luckily a contingent of US soldiers was stopping in just after for a weekly chat with the local policemen. After a few hours, they were able to get the bomb off her safely, and even traced it back to the bomb maker, her father. He was only caught because he kept calling the phone attached to the bomb on his daughter to detonate it, and they traced it backed while he was on the line. He wanted these men, a different denomination of the same religion with slightly different ethnic backgrounds, dead so badly he was going to erase his daughter from the Earth without thinking twice.

Maybe not, but see my reference.

Anyway even if Obama never officially attended a a Muslim school, my main point was that many radical Muslims would hold that he was "what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed."

If I was misremembering that he had attended a Muslim religious school for a while as a child, I am sorry. But the point I was trying to get across stands, radical muslims will see him as being a "murtadd", and that will cause security problems, and will give (more) reason for muslim radicals to attack him than other US presidents.

You are misremembering. By your own source, in 3rd grade he went to a Catholic School. And for those who start throwing the "madrasa" connection around, please remember (as has been said dozens upon dozens of times in the past months) madrasa translates directly to "school" with no connection to any sort of religion.

I got dragged to church once or twice as a child. This does not, in any way, make me an Anglican.

While in our society that is true, Muslims do not see it that way about persons who were once seen as Muslim however.

Nonsense. What you're saying is that all Muslims are stupid. That is what you are saying. You are saying that they are too stupid and barbaric to understand Obama's unique situation. You are saying that all Muslims are so backwards and ignorant that they can only see the rest of the world through the lenses of the most fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. You are saying that all Muslims are incapable of being tolerant of someone who rejected Islam. You're saying that hundred's of millions of people are going to automatically want to kill one man because of some rule you heard on Rush Limbaugh or something.

Unbelievable.

he's actually not saying that. it appears he's saying that, if you only look at that one statement, but he's made it fairly clear in previous post that he's talking specifically about violently radical muslims, not muslims in general.

here is an article that, in a roundabout way, illustrates my opinion on the logic behind the 'house negro' comment, and the direction i think that comment indicates. basically, we're being attacked on fronts that we don't even think of as fronts. the racism that exists in our society certainly has potential to be one of those fronts, and when the dust settles, there's every chance that we won't even recognize that we've been attacked.

I think we all understand this, but it's good to ask "how?"

How exactly is this "attack" going to manifest? It reminds me of the propaganda that was distributed during the Vietnam war about how the US military was "using" the black soldiers.

i suppose the simplest method would be to fund and supply existing racist groups, such as the various KKKs running around the country. give angry racists enough meth and guns, and something bad will happen. they'd have to disguise the funding, of course--send in a melanin-appropriate front man who 'has connections' or somesuch. basically, do stuff and then make it look like racist group X did it (or, better, get racist group X to claim credit). voila, racial tension flares.

as to whether or not such tactics would work, i couldn't say--i don't really know how good our intelligence community has become at sniffing out such infiltrations and snuffing them out or exposing them before they can do anything subversive. i suspect that the answer is "pretty good".

to be honest, though, Al Qaeda might not be set up for such subtleties. that comment was pretty crude, in terms of effectiveness.

It pains me to say it, but I don't think that comparison is hyperbole. Nader was making a different point of course--he was claiming that Obama will cozy up to the "corporatists," while Al Qaeda says he'll cozy up to "the Jews"--but he made his point in precisely the same way, didn't he?

I'm sorry I was mean to petepolly.

you can be mean to whoever you like, i'll probably cheer. i just don't want to see the thread derail over a misinterpreted post.

Come January, he'll be a "White House negro."

Umm, I didn't get this from a news story. Sorry.

If it's the story I'm thinking of, it did in fact make the news. There were some pretty disturbing pictures of the girl handcuffed to building while they figured out what to do with her.

Or maybe it was just some other teenage girl being manipulated into killing innocent people.

EDIT: Here is the link to the one I was thinking of. Don't know if it's the same one. There are plenty of these stories out there.