You never bothered to address what I brought up about alternative technologies.
Shift those goalposts as fast as you can and admit nothing, eh Petey?
Who is shifting goalposts? I think you are by assuming that only one technology will work and that being the one that is easier for the feds to control.
The technology of big expensive airports with very long very expensive runways was assumed by federal regulators. For ~ 20 + years federal regulators assigned routes and airports to airlines and allowed essentially no competition, even now the amount of red tape you would have to cut through to build one tiny STOL airport is monumental.
Those are real costs CAUSED by federal regulations. We are being prevented from having good inexpensive modern air transportation BY FEDERAL REGULATION.
A free market system would use a vastly larger number of small airfields much more diffused around the country, not the small number of airports that require long drives to get to and long delays we see now.
Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? You referenced an experimental World War two single person prop-engined fighter plane, which I didn't address because, practically speaking, flying cars are fucking irrelevant.
Looking forward to your protest that I didn't debunk monkeys flying out of your butt as a potential alternate flight technology.
The V-173 was a wood-and-fabric ship, single place, with 16-foot, three-bladed propellers powered by two 75-hp. engines. In its tests it flew as slowly as 20 mph. and as fast as 100 mph., and could land at a 45 degree angle at a speed under 20 mph. Its propellers turned over at about 600 rpm. at take-off and 450 rpm. at cruising speed; compare these with the take-off speed of 2,300 rpm. or more and cruising speed of 2,100 rpm. in conventional aircraft. It carried long, fixed landing gear which, no doubt, held down its top speed. The extreme length of the gear was necessary to hold the propeller tips clear of the ground, however. This explains the high angle at which the Flapjack has to hold her nose on take-off and landing.
The blue XF5U-1 is similar in design to the V-173, but with 19-foot, four-bladed propellers. It is all-metal with fully retractable landing gear and two Pratt-and-Whitney R-200-2, 1,800-hp. engines, so geared that one engine can turn both propellers in the event of failure of the other. Its reported speed range is from 40 mph. to 425 mph.; with water injection its top speed is said to reach almost 500 mph. In the future it is planned to install a single gas turbine in a nacelle behind the pilot’s cabin. With this single power plant operating both propellers, it should be possible for the Flapjack to hover at 0 speed and reach well over 500 mph.
Note that this aircraft is very different in concept from other aircraft of it's day, or of modern jets, and could be scaled up very well to make an airliner with passenger capacity like that of a small modern jet, say 100 passengers.
Given a take-off speed of 40 mph, and those huge props and the airflow over the wings driven by the big counter rotating props that do not allow the wing tip vortex losses seen in all other aircraft, jets and props alike, she can land and lift off on very, very short runways fully loaded at low speeds (safety improved as well), then fly at cruising speeds of ~450 to 500 mph to her next stop and let some passengers off and more on.
Who needs your monster big airports with all the subsidies? It would be much more convenient to the flying public to be picked up and delivered much closer to where they actually want to go, not to the location of some federal bureaucrat's choosing.
Note that this aircraft is very different in concept from other aircraft of it's day, or of modern jets, and could be scaled up very well to make an airliner with passenger capacity like that of a small modern jet, say 100 passengers.
Now you're an aircraft engineer! Who knew?
You're shifting the goalposts, again, when your positions get sunk, again. You again diverge into some fantasyland in response, completely ignoring the implications of what you say.
Come on, fail better next time, because you've been firmly into the ridiculous for some time now.
Note that this aircraft is very different in concept from other aircraft of it's day, or of modern jets, and could be scaled up very well to make an airliner with passenger capacity like that of a small modern jet, say 100 passengers.
Now you're an aircraft engineer! Who knew?
You're shifting the goalposts, again, when your positions get sunk, again.
No babe, your shifting the goal posts by pretending that technology is irrelevant.
So now you claiming that lawyers who win popularity contests should decide which types of aircraft should be built, not aeronautical engineers?
On what possible rational basis do you think such lawyers are qualified to make technical decisions about which technology is better on railroads, automobile manufacture, or aircraft, or any technical subject?
Yet under your scheme of doing things that is how it is done all the time, some crooked lawyer with a hatfull of ignorance about mathematics or physics or real world building experience, writes a law against the public interest that gets people who contribute to his political campaign juicy government contracts to build things the public does not need.
Like airports with 10,000 foot runways, when STOL aircraft could be built for about as much per aircraft, that could use the taxi aprons of a such a field instead.
Like massive federal highway systems that put vast amounts of tax money into the hands of contractors who contributed to the "right" political campaigns, where the public was better served by private railroads that already existed.
Like bailouts for corrupt and incompetent car makers when the public is better served by allowing more imports of foreign made, largely technically superior, and more reliable autos.
Note that this aircraft is very different in concept from other aircraft of it's day, or of modern jets, and could be scaled up very well to make an airliner with passenger capacity like that of a small modern jet, say 100 passengers.
Now you're an aircraft engineer! Who knew?
You're shifting the goalposts, again, when your positions get sunk, again. You again diverge into some fantasyland in response, completely ignoring the implications of what you say.
Come on, fail better next time, because you've been firmly into the ridiculous for some time now.
no no no! We're supposed to build mini-airports every mile or so throughout the city. That way all the overburdened Air Traffic Controllers can become even more insanely overburdened with a jet or small plane taking off from sixty little locations rather than one large one. Fuck you and your governmental control with the Federal Aviation Administration, they're just trying to do silly things like keeping you from dying by having regulations for the Airline Industry. Fucking safety inspections for jets, who they fuck do they think they are? It's my jet, i will let it go unmaintained and crash into a highly populated area if i want!!!11!!!
then we can do away with those stupid skyscrapers because they would just get in the way of the airports. Also we'll need to do away with overhead powerlines and bury everything. Those cell phone towers? Get rid of them, they're in the way of my mini-airport.
That park at the end of my street, the one with all the trees and the one that just keeps sucking up government dollars to maintain? Do away with it, it's blocking my personal airport!!!
You have a lot of audacity Stiles, agreeing with noise ordinances set by the city upon airports. Who the hell cares if you want a good nights sleep and can't get one because planes are taking off and landing every ten seconds around your house, it's the libertarian way!! It's their property, they can do whatever they want with it! Fuck your city ordinances and corrupt city laws!!!
Petepolly knows what i fucking want in a car, he doesn't even have to ask me. I've bought Ford cars and trucks for the last 18 years or so, i am obviously fucking stupid for having liked Ford, i should have gone with a foreign made car because he says that's what is good for me! Fuck my personal tastes! Libertarians say whats good for me, and i take their word for it!
petepolly
Antarctica
August 2008
NOV 30, 2008 12:05 PM