Current Events

TOPICS:

10/26/08

Previous

PAGE: 

1 ... 

51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55

 ... 487

Next

Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2 | 3

Next

suaveadonis

suaveadonis

USA
January 2007

OCT 25, 2008 03:50 PM

I read a similar version of this Internal strife

There was also another article with a similar point of view which had to do with everyone trying to cover their ass and pointing fingers on who to blame fearing a loss or landslide loss election day for McCain. I thought it was on Huffington Post, TPM or Media Matters but cannot locate it. I feel really old now because it was just this morning when I read it.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

OCT 25, 2008 03:51 PM

I'd say all the racists and fundies are sabotaging the McCain campaign more than any other factor.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 25, 2008 04:57 PM

Palin isn't done. She will tear the Republican Party apart in 2012. As Subrosa said, there is a large faction who cannot comprehend that she is a rather lame candidate. They are mostly evangelicals and they make up 23% of the Republican Party. Expect them to push her for 2012 and expect the economic/national security faction of the Republican Party to dislike her, as they are showing now. Neither side will forgive the other for what will happen during the primary.

It's a wonderful schism they are looking at.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 05:27 PM

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.



Why should she? he is doing an A job of it already, I think all that is going on is her salvaging her political future as best she can.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 05:32 PM

dkmfc said:

FearTheReaper said:
Palin isn't done. She will tear the Republican Party apart in 2012. As Subrosa said, there is a large faction who cannot comprehend that she is a rather lame candidate. They are mostly evangelicals and they make up 23% of the Republican Party. Expect them to push her for 2012 and expect the economic/national security faction of the Republican Party to dislike her, as they are showing now. Neither side will forgive the other for what will happen during the primary.

It's a wonderful schism they are looking at.



I have a feeling that another party will come out of this. the serious republicans will finally ostracize the religious wingnuts from the camp and they will form the theology party or something like that with the evangelical faction. it won't happen in the next 4 years...but it might in 8.


also, another one of the unintended problems that mccain is having with this pick is that there are a lot of evangelicals who do not think that a woman should be in a position of power...



The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 25, 2008 05:33 PM

dkmfc said:
also, another one of the unintended problems that mccain is having with this pick is that there are a lot of evangelicals who do not think that a woman should be in a position of power...



Good point.

Katieesq

Katieesq

USA
June 2008

OCT 25, 2008 05:35 PM

petepolly said:

dkmfc said:

FearTheReaper said:
Palin isn't done. She will tear the Republican Party apart in 2012. As Subrosa said, there is a large faction who cannot comprehend that she is a rather lame candidate. They are mostly evangelicals and they make up 23% of the Republican Party. Expect them to push her for 2012 and expect the economic/national security faction of the Republican Party to dislike her, as they are showing now. Neither side will forgive the other for what will happen during the primary.

It's a wonderful schism they are looking at.



I have a feeling that another party will come out of this. the serious republicans will finally ostracize the religious wingnuts from the camp and they will form the theology party or something like that with the evangelical faction. it won't happen in the next 4 years...but it might in 8.


also, another one of the unintended problems that mccain is having with this pick is that there are a lot of evangelicals who do not think that a woman should be in a position of power...



The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



whatever

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 25, 2008 05:53 PM

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



And you'd be wrong again.

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

OCT 25, 2008 05:58 PM

petepolly said:
The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.


O rly? You expect Bob Barr to take much of the anti-drug war vote?

Your delusions have gone from sad to hysterical.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

OCT 25, 2008 06:16 PM

Well, of course; why wouldn't thousands of rich white men settle on not creating their own vibrant, new party for change but instead shackle their fortune to one of the most hang-dog parties out there?

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

OCT 25, 2008 06:46 PM

dkmfc said:

Toku666 said:
Well, of course; why wouldn't thousands of rich white men settle on not creating their own vibrant, new party for change but instead shackle their fortune to one of the most hang-dog parties out there?



when you're rich, you tend to stay with the party that helps to promulgate that.



That's why I see the "disintegration" of the Republican party as something rather unlikely or at least rather drawn out. Years and years of:

"It's our party."
"No, it's ours."

I could be very wrong.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 07:04 PM

AceT said:

petepolly said:
The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.


O rly? You expect Bob Barr to take much of the anti-drug war vote?

Your delusions have gone from sad to hysterical.



The LP is running HUNDREDS of candidates this year, and have been every election year for a long time. In Texas alone we are running over 120.

reference

We even have incumbents.

incumbant reference

Bob Barr is I admit an embarrassment, I am not voting for him, I have already said so on this site, and given explicit reasons why not.

reference to reasons why to not vote for Barr by petepolly on SG

I am talking about the party gaining, not Mr. Barr.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 07:15 PM

FearTheReaper said:

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



And you'd be wrong again.



Not as silly wrong as you are about Ron Paul being a "loser".

You are a "comedian" who in my opinion takes himself, and his politics way too seriously.

Your posts here are not very funny in my opinion, other than some observations where people like Bush 43 are doing all the comedy for you, and for a comedian, that is a loser.

What is funny is that when Obama gets in, you lose the main butt of your jokes (Bush) forever. I do not see you being able to poke fun at Obama, nor at a congress that is majority democratic with much credibility.

So come the spring will have to actually work for a living as a comedian, or more likely get a job flipping burgers, and I think that is hysterical.







petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 07:16 PM

bald_eagle said:

petepolly said:

OhSoOrdinary said:
Apparently, there's some speculation within Republican circles.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue." A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.

McCain sources say Palin has gone off message several times, and they privately wonder if the incidents were deliberate.



I believe it's intentional.



Why should she? he is doing an A job of it already, I think all that is going on is her salvaging her political future as best she can.


The problem with that is the assumption that she has a political future. She's already reached her level of incomptence.

Unless they create a cabinet post Secretary of Field-dressing Moose, she's about done.



Perhaps, but I doubt she thinks so.

LimoWreck

LimoWreck

I'm lost
October 2007

OCT 25, 2008 07:20 PM

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



At best, you pick up a couple of Republicans like you would have anyway, regardless of the political climate. There isn't going to be some big change for your party stemming from the Republicans internal warfare right now, or ever for that matter. I simply don't believe your political contemporaries are going to gain anything of note. Period.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

OCT 25, 2008 07:24 PM

FlipsideReport said:

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



At best, you pick up a couple of Republicans like you would have anyway, regardless of the political climate. There isn't going to be some big change for your party stemming from the Republicans internal warfare right now, or ever for that matter. I simply don't believe your political contemporaries are going to gain anything of note. Period.



If we pick them up, then we would not have had them anyway.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

OCT 25, 2008 07:26 PM

Ron Paul is a looser, and a racist bigot, and an anarchist.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 25, 2008 07:30 PM

petepolly said:

FearTheReaper said:

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



And you'd be wrong again.



Not as silly wrong as you are about Ron Paul being a "loser".

You are a "comedian" who in my opinion takes himself, and his politics way too seriously.

Your posts here are not very funny in my opinion, other than some observations where people like Bush 43 are doing all the comedy for you, and for a comedian, that is a loser.

What is funny is that when Obama gets in, you lose the main butt of your jokes (Bush) forever. I do not see you being able to poke fun at Obama, nor at a congress that is majority democratic with much credibility.

So come the spring will have to actually work for a living as a comedian, or more likely get a job flipping burgers, and I think that is hysterical.



And you'd be wrong again.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

OCT 25, 2008 07:40 PM

GOD WHY DOES EVERY POLITICS THREAD HAVE TO TURN INTO A LIBERTARIAN SERMON!



im beginning to think 4chan harrassed the wrong cult!

LimoWreck

LimoWreck

I'm lost
October 2007

OCT 25, 2008 07:41 PM

petepolly said:

FlipsideReport said:

petepolly said:

The Libertarian party is sitting in the wings with the organization to pick up the libertarian wing of the republican party, small government conservatives who are not religious nutcases, and the gun vote, and the anti-drug war vote. I expect we will gain from this.



At best, you pick up a couple of Republicans like you would have anyway, regardless of the political climate. There isn't going to be some big change for your party stemming from the Republicans internal warfare right now, or ever for that matter. I simply don't believe your political contemporaries are going to gain anything of note. Period.



If we pick them up, then we would not have had them anyway.



Be that as it may, they're not going to generate the Libertarians any more notable popularity than what they have right now, which most of that popularity comes in the form of pure entertainment value. Their support factor for an election upset is between laughable and outright delusional.

kthxbi

kthxbi

Gulf Breeze, FL
November 2006

OCT 25, 2008 07:46 PM

FearTheReaper said:
It's a wonderful schism they are looking at.



Republican fears of historic Obama landslide unleash civil war for the future of the party

I think Bush has ushered at least 2 decades of solid Democratic rule. Hopefully we can reverse the damage that's been done.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

OCT 25, 2008 07:48 PM

dkmfc said:

Toku666 said:

dkmfc said:

Toku666 said:
Well, of course; why wouldn't thousands of rich white men settle on not creating their own vibrant, new party for change but instead shackle their fortune to one of the most hang-dog parties out there?



when you're rich, you tend to stay with the party that helps to promulgate that.



That's why I see the "disintegration" of the Republican party as something rather unlikely or at least rather drawn out. Years and years of:

"It's our party."
"No, it's ours."

I could be very wrong.



those rich white men do not relate to the evangelicals. they see them as trailer trash.
they're using them to get votes, and that's it. when they see that they don't get them votes, in fact that they cause them to lose races, they'll be shoved aside.
don't forget who controls the republican party, it's not the evangelicals, it's the wealthy ruling elite.



You're not exactly correct here. Trust me, the Dobson endorsement is very meaningful and very important, still, in Republican eyes, both rich ones and, *ahem* "white trash" ones.

Too many of the big Dobson donors fall into both categories, matey. They're rich, white, and they believe in Sky-God and his Amazing Son Death-Kid. Your argument is not borne out by real-world circumstances.

suaveadonis

suaveadonis

USA
January 2007

OCT 26, 2008 05:48 AM

dkmfc said:

bunky said:
I read a similar version of this Internal strife

There was also another article with a similar point of view which had to do with everyone trying to cover their ass and pointing fingers on who to blame fearing a loss or landslide loss election day for McCain. I thought it was on Huffington Post, TPM or Media Matters but cannot locate it. I feel really old now because it was just this morning when I read it.




was it the article on politico I linked on the
it's a fucking meltdown thread?


Yes it was.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

OCT 26, 2008 06:57 AM

attn_Hussein_ho said:
GOD WHY DOES EVERY POLITICS THREAD HAVE TO TURN INTO A LIBERTARIAN SERMON!



Because some folks can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Like the fantasy of the Anti-Drug-War Conservatives. The drug war was largely increased by the Great Conservative Dude, Reagan, and to go against that would be to become anathema to other Conservatives.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

OCT 26, 2008 07:28 AM

attn_Hussein_ho said:
GOD WHY DOES EVERY POLITICS THREAD HAVE TO TURN INTO A LIBERTARIAN SERMON!



im beginning to think 4chan harrassed the wrong cult!



Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2 | 3

Next