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smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

SEP 06, 2008 04:16 PM

BlastProcessing said:

CaptainTripps said:

FearTheReaper said:
Quality people, you conservatives.



Dude, stop.

We're talking about Republicans, not conservatives.



"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



I thought that was what the McCain campaign was all about.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

SEP 06, 2008 04:22 PM

So in addition to being petty, Republicans are thieves.

or is it the reverse?

anyway, I DEMAND THE REPUBLICANS RETURN OBAMAS FLAGS!!!!!!!!11

Skeletone

Skeletone

Lowell, MA
May 2008

SEP 06, 2008 04:30 PM

Metaverse said:
Not much difference to me. Tell us why their is a difference.



The one thing that always sticks out for me is the real conservatives are fiscally conservative as well. Nothing about the GOP or the administration in the last 8 years could be considered fiscally conservative.

Blast Processing said:
"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



Agreed. Don't see it happening though.

smithers_jones said:
I thought that was what the McCain campaign was all about.



8-10 years ago that could have been the case. But McCain hasn't been a
"maverick" in a long time. At one time he was a guy I really liked. Bold, outspoken, willing to challenge the administration. But then he stepped in line like a good little elephant.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

SEP 06, 2008 04:54 PM

attack attack attack attack!

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 06, 2008 05:07 PM

BlastProcessing said:

CaptainTripps said:

FearTheReaper said:
Quality people, you conservatives.



Dude, stop.

We're talking about Republicans, not conservatives.



"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



No shit. Conservatives have lost their name to heretics.

Do something about it.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 06, 2008 05:08 PM

Man, this thread was a massive backfire, eh, Stokula?

Thanks for the good time.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

SEP 06, 2008 05:13 PM

as usual, it only takes a small dose of facts to disprove a Stockula assertion.

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

SEP 06, 2008 05:56 PM

FearTheReaper said:

BlastProcessing said:

CaptainTripps said:

FearTheReaper said:
Quality people, you conservatives.



Dude, stop.

We're talking about Republicans, not conservatives.



"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



No shit. Conservatives have lost their name to heretics.

Do something about it.



Seriously, guys. What would Jesus do?

GrayRains

GrayRains

Twin Lake, MI
January 2008

SEP 06, 2008 06:18 PM

I wonder about George W. Bush's patriotism considering how he uses the Constitution to wipe his ass after going to the bathroom. I also wonder about the patriotism of Republican's for failing to police up someone of their own party.

I could go on with this, but why? It is truly pointless.

BatAttaK

BatAttaK

Tacoma, WA
OLD SKOOL

SEP 06, 2008 06:37 PM

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MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

SEP 06, 2008 09:21 PM

BlastProcessing said:

CaptainTripps said:

FearTheReaper said:
Quality people, you conservatives.



Dude, stop.

We're talking about Republicans, not conservatives.



"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



and democrats need to stop treating "liberal" like an insult.



oh shit, some of those flags are touching the ground. do you know how often i've shit myself at work trying not the drop the flag. this all is extremely insulting.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

SEP 06, 2008 09:35 PM

hey, i learned something today. if you are trying to dispose of a flag and your local American Legion Post has not the knowledge or the facilities to do it, you're to burn it.

also, the first comment on that blog Hooraydiation linked makes me want to kick a puppy.

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

SEP 06, 2008 09:41 PM

and what was the republican plan for the flags after they dumped them on the stage?

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

SEP 06, 2008 09:47 PM

lil_tuffy said:
and what was the republican plan for the flags after they dumped them on the stage?



Step 3: profit.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

SEP 06, 2008 09:49 PM

MrCrisp said:
oh shit, some of those flags are touching the ground. do you know how often i've shit myself at work trying not the drop the flag. this all is extremely insulting.



You think you have it rough, I'm a professional flag-juggler. If I screw up, I spit on freedom.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

SEP 06, 2008 10:17 PM

Accuser said:

MrCrisp said:
oh shit, some of those flags are touching the ground. do you know how often i've shit myself at work trying not the drop the flag. this all is extremely insulting.



You think you have it rough, I'm a professional flag-juggler. If I screw up, I spit on freedom.



you bastard. i'm going to have to stand by and get ready to dive for that shit now. mad

lil_tuffy said:
and what was the republican plan for the flags after they dumped them on the stage?



well, if they dump them on the stage, they're going to have to pat themselves on the back for defiling the american flag.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

SEP 06, 2008 10:23 PM

MrCrisp said:

Accuser said:

MrCrisp said:
oh shit, some of those flags are touching the ground. do you know how often i've shit myself at work trying not the drop the flag. this all is extremely insulting.



You think you have it rough, I'm a professional flag-juggler. If I screw up, I spit on freedom.



you bastard. i'm going to have to stand by and get ready to dive for that shit now. mad

lil_tuffy said:
and what was the republican plan for the flags after they dumped them on the stage?



well, if they dump them on the stage, they're going to have to pat themselves on the back for defiling the american flag.



WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICA?!?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 06, 2008 10:25 PM

CaptainTripps said:

Blast Processing said:
"Real" conservatives concerned about the tarnishing of the term by the Neocon-era GOP need to man up and take it back from them.



Agreed. Don't see it happening though.


You don't see it as a FUNDAMENTALLY URGENT MATTER for the good of the policy of the United States? You don't see it as something that you and thousands upon thousands of reasonable -- and disaffected and alienated -- conservatives should take upon themselves as a matter of the utmost importance, to fight for the soul and conscience of your preferred party to get it back on track, for the sake of the entire country?

You complain and complain about the supposed one-note political points of view that dominate this board, but you don't berate the likes of stockula and Rude_ruca for dragging conservatism into the mud and making it look like the political and ethical equivalent of a dead dog's rotting corpse?

You complain about how posters here don't tolerate dissent, and NOW you acknowledge that the issue is not about dissenting points of view, but in fact it's about how we collectively respond to the fanatical unreasonableness of the dissent that's on offer from supporters and apologists of the NeoCon Republicans who have, time and time and time again, made real conservatism look shabby and disgraced.

At what fucking point will those with conservative sympathies stop baiting liberals and man the fuck up and get about the massive but essential task of reviving the Right? Making it respectable and dignified again?

When?

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 06, 2008 10:28 PM

scylis said:
also, the first comment on that blog Hooraydiation linked makes me want to kick a puppy.


What do you expect from a party that hates patriotism? The flag is the symbol of everything they hate.



When will the Right -- the thinking, reasoning, non-NeoCon Right -- decide that enough is fucking enough and the time is well past nigh to put a stop to this miserable debasing of political discourse in America?

When?

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

SEP 06, 2008 10:29 PM

It's interesting you mention that, TFOK. I was just thinking about that today. I started considering ways to get into the political scene myself. They're all incredibly improbable. But hey, I might just lie and say I have some kids so I can join the local PTA - as I understand it, that can lead to a nomination for the vice presidency.

Seriously, there are some incredible morons in charge of the Republican party right now. I'd love to run on the platform of a return to Goldwater Conservatism and see what the reaction is. But I still have, like, qualifications to meet and another 20-30 years before I'll be seriously considered for anything. Then again, returning to the morons currently in charge... how hard can it be to be a Congressman?

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

SEP 06, 2008 10:29 PM

scylis said:

MrCrisp said:

Accuser said:

MrCrisp said:
oh shit, some of those flags are touching the ground. do you know how often i've shit myself at work trying not the drop the flag. this all is extremely insulting.



You think you have it rough, I'm a professional flag-juggler. If I screw up, I spit on freedom.



you bastard. i'm going to have to stand by and get ready to dive for that shit now. mad

lil_tuffy said:
and what was the republican plan for the flags after they dumped them on the stage?



well, if they dump them on the stage, they're going to have to pat themselves on the back for defiling the american flag.



WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICA?!?



it's profitable.

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

SEP 06, 2008 10:30 PM

_kungfoo_ said:

DeadBilly said:

coyotemike said:

DeadBilly said:
Well, these are the same people who whine about SUV drivers, all the while flying cross country on their private jets...



Which people would that be?



[Picture of Al Gore]



Al Gore's imaginary private jet.

I swear, it's like facts don't matter; it'll all about the narrative -- AL GORE IS CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING TO MAKE MONEY ON GREEN TECH WITH HIS PRIVATE JET BUT GLOBAL WARMING DOESN'T EXIST.

The Republican party will drive this country into the ground all while waving the flag and screaming U-S-A.

Good job stock. You hide your hate for America behind the American flag.



That he may not OWN one does not mean he does not CHARTER private jets to fly various places, and while he is chartering it, it is like renting a car, it is his for the time he rents it.

reference

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

SEP 06, 2008 10:31 PM

When will those on the Right with brains and decency decide the Republican Party needs an enema?

When?

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Can the super-rich former governor of Massachusetts %u2014 the son of a Fortune 500 C.E.O. who made a vast fortune in the leveraged-buyout business %u2014 really keep a straight face while denouncing "Eastern elites"?

Can the former mayor of New York City, a man who, as USA Today put it, "marched in gay pride parades, dressed up in drag and lived temporarily with a gay couple and their Shih Tzu" %u2014 that was between his second and third marriages %u2014 really get away with saying that Barack Obama doesn't think small towns are sufficiently "cosmopolitan"?

Can the vice-presidential candidate of a party that has controlled the White House, Congress or both for 26 of the past 28 years, a party that, Borg-like, assimilated much of the D.C. lobbying industry into itself %u2014 until Congress changed hands, high-paying lobbying jobs were reserved for loyal Republicans %u2014 really portray herself as running against the "Washington elite"?

Yes, they can.

On Tuesday, He Who Must Not Be Named %u2014 Mitt Romney mentioned him just once, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin not at all %u2014 gave a video address to the Republican National Convention. John McCain, promised President Bush, would stand up to the "angry left." That's no doubt true. But don't be fooled either by Mr. McCain's long-ago reputation as a maverick or by Ms. Palin's appealing persona: the Republican Party, now more than ever, is firmly in the hands of the angry right, which has always been much bigger, much more influential and much angrier than its counterpart on the other side.

What's the source of all that anger?

Some of it, of course, is driven by cultural and religious conflict: fundamentalist Christians are sincerely dismayed by Roe v. Wade and evolution in the curriculum. What struck me as I watched the convention speeches, however, is how much of the anger on the right is based not on the claim that Democrats have done bad things, but on the perception %u2014 generally based on no evidence whatsoever %u2014 that Democrats look down their noses at regular people.

Thus Mr. Giuliani asserted that Wasilla, Alaska, isn't "flashy enough" for Mr. Obama, who never said any such thing. And Ms. Palin asserted that Democrats "look down" on small-town mayors %u2014 again, without any evidence.

What the G.O.P. is selling, in other words, is the pure politics of resentment; you're supposed to vote Republican to stick it to an elite that thinks it's better than you. Or to put it another way, the G.O.P. is still the party of Nixon.

One of the key insights in "Nixonland," the new book by the historian Rick Perlstein, is that Nixon's political strategy throughout his career was inspired by his college experience, in which he got himself elected student body president by exploiting his classmates' resentment against the Franklins, the school's elite social club. There's a direct line from that student election to Spiro Agnew's attacks on the "nattering nabobs of negativism" as "an effete corps of impudent snobs," and from there to the peculiar cult of personality that not long ago surrounded George W. Bush %u2014 a cult that celebrated his anti-intellectualism and made much of the supposed fact that the "misunderestimated" C-average student had proved himself smarter than all the fancy-pants experts.

And when Mr. Bush turned out not to be that smart after all, and his presidency crashed and burned, the angry right %u2014 the raging rajas of resentment? %u2014 became, if anything, even angrier. Humiliation will do that.

Can Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin really ride Nixonian resentment into an upset election victory in what should be an overwhelmingly Democratic year? The answer is a definite maybe.

By selecting Barack Obama as their nominee, the Democrats may have given Republicans an opening: the very qualities that inspire many fervent Obama supporters %u2014 the candidate's high-flown eloquence, his coolness factor %u2014 have also laid him open to a Nixonian backlash. Unlike many observers, I wasn't surprised at the effectiveness of the McCain "celebrity" ad. It didn't make much sense intellectually, but it skillfully exploited the resentment some voters feel toward Mr. Obama's star quality.

That said, the experience of the years since 2000 %u2014 the memory of what happened to working Americans when faux-populist Republicans controlled the government %u2014 is still fairly fresh in voters' minds. Furthermore, while Democrats' supposed contempt for ordinary people is mainly a figment of Republican imagination, the G.O.P. really is the Gramm Old Party %u2014 it really does believe that the economy is just fine, and the fact that most Americans disagree just shows that we're a nation of whiners.

But the Democrats can't afford to be complacent. Resentment, no matter how contrived, is a powerful force, and it's one that Republicans are very, very good at exploiting.


Link.


When?

petepolly

petepolly

Antarctica
August 2008

SEP 06, 2008 10:49 PM

TheFuckOffKid said:
When will those on the Right with brains and decency decide the Republican Party needs an enema?

When?

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Can the super-rich former governor of Massachusetts %u2014 the son of a Fortune 500 C.E.O. who made a vast fortune in the leveraged-buyout business %u2014 really keep a straight face while denouncing "Eastern elites"?

Can the former mayor of New York City, a man who, as USA Today put it, "marched in gay pride parades, dressed up in drag and lived temporarily with a gay couple and their Shih Tzu" %u2014 that was between his second and third marriages %u2014 really get away with saying that Barack Obama doesn't think small towns are sufficiently "cosmopolitan"?

Can the vice-presidential candidate of a party that has controlled the White House, Congress or both for 26 of the past 28 years, a party that, Borg-like, assimilated much of the D.C. lobbying industry into itself %u2014 until Congress changed hands, high-paying lobbying jobs were reserved for loyal Republicans %u2014 really portray herself as running against the "Washington elite"?

Yes, they can.

On Tuesday, He Who Must Not Be Named %u2014 Mitt Romney mentioned him just once, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin not at all %u2014 gave a video address to the Republican National Convention. John McCain, promised President Bush, would stand up to the "angry left." That's no doubt true. But don't be fooled either by Mr. McCain's long-ago reputation as a maverick or by Ms. Palin's appealing persona: the Republican Party, now more than ever, is firmly in the hands of the angry right, which has always been much bigger, much more influential and much angrier than its counterpart on the other side.

What's the source of all that anger?

Some of it, of course, is driven by cultural and religious conflict: fundamentalist Christians are sincerely dismayed by Roe v. Wade and evolution in the curriculum. What struck me as I watched the convention speeches, however, is how much of the anger on the right is based not on the claim that Democrats have done bad things, but on the perception %u2014 generally based on no evidence whatsoever %u2014 that Democrats look down their noses at regular people.

Thus Mr. Giuliani asserted that Wasilla, Alaska, isn't "flashy enough" for Mr. Obama, who never said any such thing. And Ms. Palin asserted that Democrats "look down" on small-town mayors %u2014 again, without any evidence.

What the G.O.P. is selling, in other words, is the pure politics of resentment; you're supposed to vote Republican to stick it to an elite that thinks it's better than you. Or to put it another way, the G.O.P. is still the party of Nixon.

One of the key insights in "Nixonland," the new book by the historian Rick Perlstein, is that Nixon's political strategy throughout his career was inspired by his college experience, in which he got himself elected student body president by exploiting his classmates' resentment against the Franklins, the school's elite social club. There's a direct line from that student election to Spiro Agnew's attacks on the "nattering nabobs of negativism" as "an effete corps of impudent snobs," and from there to the peculiar cult of personality that not long ago surrounded George W. Bush %u2014 a cult that celebrated his anti-intellectualism and made much of the supposed fact that the "misunderestimated" C-average student had proved himself smarter than all the fancy-pants experts.

And when Mr. Bush turned out not to be that smart after all, and his presidency crashed and burned, the angry right %u2014 the raging rajas of resentment? %u2014 became, if anything, even angrier. Humiliation will do that.

Can Mr. McCain and Ms. Palin really ride Nixonian resentment into an upset election victory in what should be an overwhelmingly Democratic year? The answer is a definite maybe.

By selecting Barack Obama as their nominee, the Democrats may have given Republicans an opening: the very qualities that inspire many fervent Obama supporters %u2014 the candidate's high-flown eloquence, his coolness factor %u2014 have also laid him open to a Nixonian backlash. Unlike many observers, I wasn't surprised at the effectiveness of the McCain "celebrity" ad. It didn't make much sense intellectually, but it skillfully exploited the resentment some voters feel toward Mr. Obama's star quality.

That said, the experience of the years since 2000 %u2014 the memory of what happened to working Americans when faux-populist Republicans controlled the government %u2014 is still fairly fresh in voters' minds. Furthermore, while Democrats' supposed contempt for ordinary people is mainly a figment of Republican imagination, the G.O.P. really is the Gramm Old Party %u2014 it really does believe that the economy is just fine, and the fact that most Americans disagree just shows that we're a nation of whiners.

But the Democrats can't afford to be complacent. Resentment, no matter how contrived, is a powerful force, and it's one that Republicans are very, very good at exploiting.


Link.


When?



You might notice the fact of the Ron Paul campaign and the counter convention for conservatives that was being held a few miles away.

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