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FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

SEP 02, 2008 09:40 PM

But stock... haven't you heard. She's a secessionist. She wants to turn you into a damn foreigner!

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:41 PM

FreakPirate said:
But stock... haven't you heard. She's a secessionist. She wants to turn you into a damn foreigner!



Again, you guys have never heard about the AIP before this week. It's been defunct for 15 years since its leader Joe Vogler died. Even then, it was basically the Ron Paul/Libertarian party (i.e., cranks with no real prospects at actually influencing anything).

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 02, 2008 09:42 PM

If you are a Republican and your VP selection is used to "fire up" your base, you've already lost. Usually the presidential candidate would be the guy "firing up" the base.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 02, 2008 09:42 PM

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

IDGAS said:
Sarah Palin = Harriet Miers



Palin is a lawyer crony of George Bush's from Texas with no discernible movement conservative bona fides? I don't see the comparison.


AND Harriet Meiers' Husband doesn't HATE AMERICA.



Oh give me a break. You don't even understand what you're talking about.



He belongs to a political party that has a motto of "Alaska First- Alaska Always". A political party that is part of a movement to secede from the Union. How is that LOVING AMERICA!?!? What's more, your perfect VEEP is all about them.

You constantly demand that EVERYONE on the left practice an "Love it or leave it!!!" attitude about the U.S. But here you're looking past it? HERE you're willing to consider actual nuances? Not all the other times, just here. Guilt by association is TOTALLY FINE for the left, but not the right?

Wonder why, you pathetic hypocrite.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

SEP 02, 2008 09:43 PM

stockula said:

coyotemike said:

stockula said:
Oh give me a break. You don't even understand what you're talking about.



Pot . . . kettle . . . too easy.



have you ever heard of the Alaska Independence party before this week?



This was more of a generic statement, for my own amusement at the irony of your statement.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 02, 2008 09:44 PM

stockula said:

FreakPirate said:
But stock... haven't you heard. She's a secessionist. She wants to turn you into a damn foreigner!



Again, you guys have never heard about the AIP before this week. It's been defunct for 15 years since its leader Joe Vogler died. Even then, it was basically the Ron Paul/Libertarian party (i.e., cranks with no real prospects at actually influencing anything).



Weird. Why was your VP's husband a member of that "defunct" party until 6 years ago? Why did he re-up his registration in 2000 of a party that was "defunct" 15 years ago? Why did YOUR VP record a welcoming address to this allegedly "defunct" party just two years ago?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:45 PM

FearTheReaper said:
If you are a Republican and your VP selection is used to "fire up" your base, you've already lost. Usually the presidential candidate would be the guy "firing up" the base.



I suppose. But the VP is also someone taking the party leadership forward. Palin is exactly what we want and what has been lacking in all the contenders this year.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

SEP 02, 2008 09:46 PM

Why does this "defunct" party still have an active website if they haven't been around for 15 years? Seems like it would be kind of pointless.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 02, 2008 09:46 PM

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

Hooraydiation said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:
It also helps that she holds sound conservative political philosophies,



You mean, "sound conservative political philosophies" like taking over a town with no debt and running up a deficit of $22 million? That's about $3,700 of debt PER PERSON. What a budget hawk!

Or how about the time she raised taxes? Or about the time she lobbied to receive $27 Million in Federal Pork? Or about the fact that her husband is a secessionist? HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO SO CLEARLY HATES AMERICA!?!?!?!?!?!?!?



She raised taxes on oil companies. Something I thought Democrats wanted to see.
shocked



Subrosa's link says she increased the sales tax.



Yep. Way to ignore the POINT, TAX RAISER!



Well, ok. Good luck convincing Republicans to turn on her over that. Most towns in AK have sales taxes. Mine doesn't.



So you're willing to let other people suffer under socialist tax-and-spend bureaucracies as long as you don't, but you're willing to support the comrades who enforce them? What kind of conservative fighter are you!?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:47 PM

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

IDGAS said:
Sarah Palin = Harriet Miers



Palin is a lawyer crony of George Bush's from Texas with no discernible movement conservative bona fides? I don't see the comparison.


AND Harriet Meiers' Husband doesn't HATE AMERICA.



Oh give me a break. You don't even understand what you're talking about.



He belongs to a political party that has a motto of "Alaska First- Alaska Always". A political party that is part of a movement to secede from the Union. How is that LOVING AMERICA!?!? What's more, your perfect VEEP is all about them.

You constantly demand that EVERYONE on the left practice an "Love it or leave it!!!" attitude about the U.S. But here you're looking past it? HERE you're willing to consider actual nuances? Not all the other times, just here. Guilt by association is TOTALLY FINE for the left, but not the right?

Wonder why, you pathetic hypocrite.



It sure would be sweet if we didn't have to deal with dweebs in San Francisco dictating whether we can develop our resources or not.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

SEP 02, 2008 09:49 PM

Subrosa said:]
Weird. Why was your VP's husband a member of that "defunct" party until 6 years ago? Why did he re-up his registration in 2000 of a party that was "defunct" 15 years ago? Why did YOUR VP record a welcoming address to this allegedly "defunct" party just two years ago?



and its not even my birthday!

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:49 PM

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

Hooraydiation said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:
stockula said:
It also helps that she holds sound conservative political philosophies,



You mean, "sound conservative political philosophies" like taking over a town with no debt and running up a deficit of $22 million? That's about $3,700 of debt PER PERSON. What a budget hawk!

Or how about the time she raised taxes? Or about the time she lobbied to receive $27 Million in Federal Pork? Or about the fact that her husband is a secessionist? HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO SO CLEARLY HATES AMERICA!?!?!?!?!?!?!?



She raised taxes on oil companies. Something I thought Democrats wanted to see.
shocked



Subrosa's link says she increased the sales tax.



Yep. Way to ignore the POINT, TAX RAISER!



Well, ok. Good luck convincing Republicans to turn on her over that. Most towns in AK have sales taxes. Mine doesn't.



So you're willing to let other people suffer under socialist tax-and-spend bureaucracies as long as you don't, but you're willing to support the comrades who enforce them? What kind of conservative fighter are you!?

Well those are determined by popular vote by the municipality, so if they have a sales tax it's because the community wanted one, probably because they wanted to cash in on the people passing through their town.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

SEP 02, 2008 09:50 PM

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

IDGAS said:
Sarah Palin = Harriet Miers



Palin is a lawyer crony of George Bush's from Texas with no discernible movement conservative bona fides? I don't see the comparison.


AND Harriet Meiers' Husband doesn't HATE AMERICA.



Oh give me a break. You don't even understand what you're talking about.



He belongs to a political party that has a motto of "Alaska First- Alaska Always". A political party that is part of a movement to secede from the Union. How is that LOVING AMERICA!?!? What's more, your perfect VEEP is all about them.

You constantly demand that EVERYONE on the left practice an "Love it or leave it!!!" attitude about the U.S. But here you're looking past it? HERE you're willing to consider actual nuances? Not all the other times, just here. Guilt by association is TOTALLY FINE for the left, but not the right?

Wonder why, you pathetic hypocrite.



It sure would be sweet if we didn't have to deal with dweebs in San Francisco dictating whether we can develop our resources or not.



Wow. Other than taking a lame shot at Subrosa, this has absolutly no connection to anything that has been said in any of the quotes in the conversation.

Way to go, Stock.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

SEP 02, 2008 09:50 PM

stockula said:

It sure would be sweet if we didn't have to deal with dweebs in San Francisco dictating whether we can develop our resources or not.



I'm sure it would be wonderful if muppets from buttfuck Alaska weren't trying to fuck over women and gays too.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 02, 2008 09:51 PM

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

Subrosa said:

stockula said:

IDGAS said:
Sarah Palin = Harriet Miers



Palin is a lawyer crony of George Bush's from Texas with no discernible movement conservative bona fides? I don't see the comparison.


AND Harriet Meiers' Husband doesn't HATE AMERICA.



Oh give me a break. You don't even understand what you're talking about.



He belongs to a political party that has a motto of "Alaska First- Alaska Always". A political party that is part of a movement to secede from the Union. How is that LOVING AMERICA!?!? What's more, your perfect VEEP is all about them.

You constantly demand that EVERYONE on the left practice an "Love it or leave it!!!" attitude about the U.S. But here you're looking past it? HERE you're willing to consider actual nuances? Not all the other times, just here. Guilt by association is TOTALLY FINE for the left, but not the right?

Wonder why, you pathetic hypocrite.



It sure would be sweet if we didn't have to deal with dweebs in San Francisco dictating whether we can develop our resources or not.



Ohh. You called me a dweeb. I now feel like I must defend my honor by challenging you to a blood feud! PISTOLS AT DAWN!!!1111

Seriously, you're a joke. You haven't responded to anyone, and you can't. By supporting this candidate, you are writing in BIG FUCKING LETTERS what a tremendous hypocrite you are. Whether or not you think I'm some SF elitist fag is, as usual, totally irrelevant.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

SEP 02, 2008 09:52 PM

I'm not sure what the bigger disaster is, McCain chosing Palin, or Stockula's pathetic attempts to defend her.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

SEP 02, 2008 09:54 PM

FearTheReaper said:
I'm not sure what the bigger disaster is, McCain chosing Palin, or Stockula's pathetic attempts to defend her.



Palin could actually be dangerous to your country. Stockula just boosts your self esteem by showing you just how much worse a human being you could be.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

SEP 02, 2008 09:55 PM

stockula said:
...dweebs...

Himes

Himes

Brooklyn, NY
October 2006

SEP 02, 2008 09:55 PM

No worries Stock,

Palin will still be your governor next year.

So Alaskan men can continue stroking the apparently huge hard-on they have for her.


Ugh. this must make everyone's head hurt.

Dems listing reasons why she's the wrong choice.

GOPs defending the choice.

When i heard Palin was given the nod for VP - i was FUCKING ECSTATIC!

Obama/ Biden will be sworn in in January.


Christ I can't WAIT for the VP debates.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:57 PM

FearTheReaper said:
I'm not sure what the bigger disaster is, McCain chosing Palin, or Stockula's pathetic attempts to defend her.



Well, from what I can tell, I am mostly defending Todd Palin's party affiliation...for...some reason. Or that Wasilla instated a sales tax while Palin was mayor. Well, ok, but those are instated by voter initiative. It's what the people wanted. If she vetoed the will of the people, would you not be as rabid?

You guys are obviously freaked out.

HoneyBadger

HoneyBadger

USA
July 2006

SEP 02, 2008 09:58 PM

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

SEP 02, 2008 09:58 PM

FreakPirate said:

FearTheReaper said:
I'm not sure what the bigger disaster is, McCain chosing Palin, or Stockula's pathetic attempts to defend her.



Palin could actually be dangerous to your country. Stockula just boosts your self esteem by showing you just how much worse a human being you could be.



No, Palin is not just good for America, she is good for Canada.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

SEP 02, 2008 09:58 PM

FreakPirate said:

FearTheReaper said:
I'm not sure what the bigger disaster is, McCain chosing Palin, or Stockula's pathetic attempts to defend her.



Palin could actually be dangerous to your country. Stockula just boosts your self esteem by showing you just how much worse a human being you could be.



I am greatly amused by how all the crap "gotchas" thrown at Obama by the right are coming back so much worse on McCain's choice.

No experiance . . . so McCain chooses someone with even LESS experiance.

Loose connections to "bad guys" . . . Palin's Husband wants to freaking break from the country!

He's a Muslim . . . she thinks the freakin' world is FLAT and 6000 years old!

No foreign policy expertise . . . she vacationed in Europe!

What's next?

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

SEP 02, 2008 10:00 PM

stockula said:

FreakPirate said:
But stock... haven't you heard. She's a secessionist. She wants to turn you into a damn foreigner!



Again, you guys have never heard about the AIP before this week. It's been defunct for 15 years since its leader Joe Vogler died. Even then, it was basically the Ron Paul/Libertarian party (i.e., cranks with no real prospects at actually influencing anything).



Funny that this "defunct" group had a convention this year at which its Vice Chairman Dexter Clark gave an address in which he referred to Palin as "the current governor", and noted that they have 13000 registered members according to Alaskan registration records (roughly 2% of the population of Alaska).

Also funny that Palin, as Governor, made a happy little introduction video for this year's convention. .

But keep on trying to tell us how they're defunct, and how we shouldn't have questions about the potential Vice President of the United States being very cozy with a secessionist group because they have 'no real prospects at actually influencing anything."

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

SEP 02, 2008 10:05 PM

bean said:

stockula said:

FreakPirate said:
But stock... haven't you heard. She's a secessionist. She wants to turn you into a damn foreigner!



Again, you guys have never heard about the AIP before this week. It's been defunct for 15 years since its leader Joe Vogler died. Even then, it was basically the Ron Paul/Libertarian party (i.e., cranks with no real prospects at actually influencing anything).



Funny that this "defunct" group had a convention this year at which its Vice Chairman Dexter Clark gave an address in which he referred to Palin as "the current governor", and noted that they have 13000 registered members according to Alaskan registration records (roughly 2% of the population of Alaska).

Also funny that Palin, as Governor, made a happy little introduction video for this year's convention. .

But keep on trying to tell us how they're defunct, and how we shouldn't have questions about the potential Vice President of the United States being very cozy with a secessionist group because they have 'no real prospects at actually influencing anything."



HATES. AMERICA.

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