He is further going to distance himself from Hillary supporters, and if he was going to select an insider he should have just asked Hillary to be his running mate.

... and there it is!

She was the brains behind Bill

I've always suspected Hillary Clinton and James Carville were the same person!

and I think she would know as much as Biden how Washington works on Capitol Hill.

Biden's been a senator five times as long as Hillary, and he's also chair of the Committee on Foreign Relations, so if your argument is based entirely on Capitol Hill experience, you might want to think about changing your position.

McCain's campaign is already using Biden's words against Obama against him. Biden was one of the first to be critical of Obama's lack of experience to be President. And let's not forget the comments about Obama being the "first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and c]clean and a nice looking guy".

Yes, because there are absolutely no sound bites from Clinton that could be used against Obama.

From my research (which I admit lacks any sort of rigor), Biden's policies dovetail with Obama's far better than Kaine or Bayh's, and his only serious flaw is his penchant to shoot his mouth off, but the Obama campaign has been running so solidly, I think they're fully capable of controlling his quips and directing them directly at the McCain campaign. Additionally, Delaware has a Democratic governor, so the party won't lose Biden's senate seat.

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 23, 2008 03:17 AM

bunky said:
I just read about this in the NY Times and was a little annoyed not receiving an email which supposedly was sent at 3AM today. I see this as a huge, disappointing mistake. He is further going to distance himself from Hillary supporters, and if he was going to select an insider he should have just asked Hillary to be his running mate. She was the brains behind Bill and I think she would know as much as Biden how Washington works on Capitol Hill.

McCain's campaign is already using Biden's words against Obama against him. Biden was one of the first to be critical of Obama's lack of experience to be President.

You know why that's not a problem? Because this is what Obama said earlier this week when asked about VP criteria:

Let me tell you first what I won't do. I won't hand over my energy policy to my vice president, without knowing necessarily what he's doing. I wont have my vice president engineering my foreign policy for me. The buck will stop with me, because I will be the president.

My vice president -- also by the way my vice president also will be a member of the executive branch, he won't be one of these 4th branches of government where he thinks he's above the law. But here's what I do want from my vice president, I want somebody who has integrity, who's in politics for the right reasons, I want somebody who is independent. Somebody who is able to say to me, 'you know what, Mr. President, I think you're wrong on this and here's why' and will give me [applause] who will help me think through major issues and consult with me, would be a key advisor.

I want somebody who is capable of being president and who I would trust to be president. That's the first criteria for vice president. And the final thing is I want a [vice] president who shares with me a passion to make the lives of the American people better than they are right now. I want someone who is not in it just because they want to have their name up in lights or end up being president. I want somebody who is mad right now, that people are losing their jobs. And is mad right now that people have seen their incomes decline, and want to rebuild the middle class in this country. That's the kind of person that I want; somebody who in their gut knows where they came from and believes that we have to grow this country from the bottom up.

suaveadonis

USA

January 2007

AUG 23, 2008 03:24 AM

^^ Please explain the difference between Clinton and Biden, besides having to deal with Bill Clinton's anticipated input ?

gdarklighter You must have some input because I just received the email.

AceT

Portland, OR

April 2004

AUG 23, 2008 03:59 AM

Is this why people got their text messages late/at different times?

And yes, Scopitone is a valid news source.

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

AUG 23, 2008 05:40 AM

AceT said:
Is this why people got their text messages late/at different times?

And yes, Scopitone is a valid news source.

^^^ I seriously doubt that.
(I doubt the interns thing, not Scopitone's credentials as a media outlet.)

My text was timestamped 3:07am EDT.

Pip

Framingham, MA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 23, 2008 07:39 AM

I hope they've made an Obama '08 ball gag for Biden.

I'm worried about this, it reaks of classic Democratic "Shoot yourself in the foot" tactics. I like Obama and still trust him as president but I did not want a new doubt added to any of my older ones. If Biden is the VP who will be the AG and SecState?

I do not ever want Biden as President, the guy can't handle the pressures of the job, as shown by his past mis-statements. Then on top of that we are one step further away from 60 in the Senate. There were 100 better choices.

I hope to hell that McCain picks someone pro-choice.

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

AUG 23, 2008 07:49 AM

Pip said:
I hope to hell that McCain picks someone pro-choice.

That's almost certainly not going to happen after the recent backlash over the prospect that he was considering Tom Ridge.

Most of the pundits are pointing toward McCain going with either Romney or Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty.

Quirky

Birmingham, AL

October 2005

AUG 23, 2008 07:57 AM

I wonder when FTR will write an article, losing his mind by the end of the first paragraph, over this revelation.

Imnutz

Runnemede, NJ

December 2003

AUG 23, 2008 08:41 AM

I got my text message at 3:07 in the fucking morning. I wanted to know and all but couldn't they wait until I was awake?

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

AUG 23, 2008 08:43 AM

Imnutz said:
I got my text message at 3:07 in the fucking morning. I wanted to know and all but couldn't they wait until I was awake?

So, the phone rang at three in the morning and you weren't ready?

You're not presidential material.
Sorry.

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 23, 2008 08:46 AM

Just imagine if it had been Hillary...

stockula

Anchorage, AK

May 2003

AUG 23, 2008 09:00 AM

Oh good, it wasn't just a dream

Coyotemike

USA

May 2006

AUG 23, 2008 09:11 AM

stockula said:
Oh good, it wasn't just a dream

I'll ask you the same question I asked your little girlfriend. When Obama wins, will you leave?

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA

October 2005

AUG 23, 2008 09:16 AM

FearTheReaper said:

Just imagine if it had been Hillary...

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 23, 2008 09:16 AM

This is very bad news for Republicans. The deluded idiots seem to believe they can now undermine Obama because Biden is a Washington insider. Yet, anyone who has watched politics over the past twenty years knows elections are about sound bites and the Dems just picked the king of the sound bite.

This is what Republicans have in store for them:

Oh, and Biden's son is going to Iraq. That's going to wipe out any military advantage

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA

April 2005

AUG 23, 2008 09:26 AM

Does this force McCain into choosing Romney? Attack dog vs. attack dog?

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY

February 2004

AUG 23, 2008 09:27 AM

coyotemike said:

stockula said:
Oh good, it wasn't just a dream

I'll ask you the same question I asked your little girlfriend. When Obama wins, will you leave?

he could go to canada, and get socialized medicine.... or he could hop over to russia, and get socialized BY medicine.

wait, i screwed that up.

FreakPirate

Canada

November 2002

AUG 23, 2008 09:34 AM

attn_ho said:

he could go to canada, and get socialized medicine.... or he could hop over to russia, and get socialized BY medicine.

wait, i screwed that up.

Fuck you. They aren't coming here.