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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 18, 2008 04:43 PM

Remember when you thought Hillary Clinton and her supporters were done? You obviously didn’t notice her supporter's Michael Myers like qualities. While everyone else moved on to the general election campaign, Hillary’s peeps have not. They have been strongly campaigning for Hillary to get the VP nod and they are becoming increasingly angry, all over again.

At this point it looks like there is no way she will get the nod. Currently, the world’s biggest self-hating gay, Drudge, is predicting Obama will pick Senator Joe Biden today. And the rumor mill is heating up in DC after Obama sent Biden to Georgia this week. Clinton’s supporters warn choosing Obama could mean a loss in November. I mean, how’s he going to win without out the most divisive politician in America on his side? I don’t know.

They’ve been making this point since July and it is as ridiculous as their “big state” argument and their “working class voters” argument, both of which turned out to be false, according to polls.


You know how after the fact now everyone wonders how in the hell we plunged into the Iraq Debacle? How in hindsight it was so obviously boneheaded that we wonder where all the "experts" were yelling "are you crazy?" That is how I feel about the fact that Barack Obama is not going to pick Hillary Clinton as his running mate. Honestly, I have never seen a bigger no-brainer in my life for this.


Yes, choosing Hillary for VP and not invading Iraq are extraordinarily similar. They just can't help themselves.


The answer to that question is what will hurt Obama. It also could make his job harder among Hillary supporters, not easier, and we're not just talking women either, something that is discounted way too often. There are a lot of men out there, like former Gov. Cuomo, who understands how these things work. Nobody is going to be happy if Obama blows it. His vice presidential pick is one way that could happen.


Yes. And picking Hillary could turn more people off than it could pull them in. Oh, and it would energize the Republican base more than Obama fucking a boy on top of Reagan’s grave would. But please, continue to ignore those possibilities.

Either way, expect another anger explosion from the Hillary supporters. They will be confused by Obama’s stupidity, claim they will not vote for him and rage against the system. And it will carry over to the Democratic Convention, August 25th-28th. The hardcore Hillary supporters are already planning exciting events for the convention.

The Denver Group, which was started by two Clinton supporters, hopes to convince everyone to pick Hillary at the convention. Their slogan is “Keeping the Democratic Party Democratic.” And they plan on doing that by getting superdelegates to overturn the choice of voters and pick Clinton. Brilliant.

And they made an ad!



Keep hanging on. There’s no way this won’t go your way if you just keep pushing.

The Denver Group is also opposed to having a “coronation” during the convention. They have been pushing for Clinton to be “nominated” during the convention and said that anything else would be a coronation for Obama. Having her name placed in nomination means delegates can vote for her as well as Obama. In the end, she is expected to then give her votes to Obama. And Obama agreed to do so last week. Basically, it’s just some petty, weird need for Hillary voters to make a statement, as if their 18 million votes weren’t already counted. Either way, I don’t think her being placed in nomination is that big of deal – unless these fuckers start making noise...


The news that Senator Clinton's name is going to be placed in nomination is welcome news -- even if it took two months and a lot of effort to persuade the Democratic Party powers to do what they should have done in the first place. If, that is, they actually end up doing what they should have done in the first place.


Oh, so they agreed to your demands and now your upset because they might not do what they agreed to? Really? Why are you so cranky? Does your diaper fit? Did you make a mess in it?


Heidi Li Feldman, co-founder of the Denver Group, said, “There is going to be a steady stream of activities for the first three days of the convention” and predicted thousands of Clinton backers will appear at the events.

Feldman said her group has raised between $30,000 and $40,000, enabling it to buy six print ads and produce one television ad. The TV ad is scheduled to run on CNN and during a local news broadcast in Denver the week before the convention begins. The ad strategy for convention week has not been finalized.


Wow. That’s an awesome idea. I wonder what the media will focus on? I don’t think you can do more for your party than to totally undermine your party's convention. I wonder if the press will want to broadcast what these idiots have to say?


The Denver Post recently reported that Clinton backers will hold signs that read, “Denounce Nobama's Coronation.”


That’s just smart. Obama is having a difficult time getting his message out because of the relentless and shockingly stupid McCain attacks, so you might as well make it hard for him focus on issues at the party's convention.

Other groups, like 18 Million Voices, are planning on celebrating Hillary’s achievement of losing. Sorry, I mean, coming in second. They plan on holding a large rally on the 26th of August.


We are happy to announce that 18 Million Voices will be Marching to advocate for women's rights and to celebrate Senator Hillary Clinton's achievements on August 26th in Denver and nationwide to support Senator Clinton and advocate for Women's Rights worldwide.


Again, that should go awesome. Don’t expect much media coverage. Don’t expect them to pull out the angry women who say they won’t vote for Obama and make this seem far worse than it is. Don’t expect this to be the story of the convention. Don’t expect this to cause less unity in the party.

The amusing detail in this mess is Hillary’s supporters reasoning. They believe their actions will be cathartic and bring the party closer together.


Clinton and many of her backers believe that, if there were a strategy of recognizing the New York senators’ delegates at the convention, it would be a cathartic experience and lead to a more unified Democratic Party.


Yes, nothing will bring the party together more than giving more attention to the woman who refused to give up, even after she was long dead. This is about group therapy for the Hillheads, nothing more. Some are just looking for something to be upset about. No matter what the DNC does, they will be angry.


Marc Rubin, the other co-founder of the Denver Group, said Clinton supporters will “absolutely not” be appeased by the speaking slots.

Rubin said there is “palpable anger” at the Democratic National Committee.


This above statement was made before it was agreed that Clinton would be “placed in nomination.” They were angry about something that had not been decided either way yet. And they will be a vocal minority at the convention and take away from the message. Count on it. And count on Obama supporter’s angry response.

Oh, and Hillary could have put a stop to this with a few phone calls.

FearTheReaper is a writer, actor and comedian. You can read more of his blathering on his blog, Stop All Monsters.

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

AUG 19, 2008 06:47 AM

The question "Will Hillary torpedo her party's chance at the White House for her own gains?" is asked and very quickly answered in my mind.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

AUG 19, 2008 07:04 AM

If Clinton was going to cost Obama the presidency, we'd already be seeing evidence of that. Instead, he consistently polls better than McCain and seems to have an even better shot than preceding Democratic nominees who had the benefit of not having run against Clinton.

Furthermore, without Clinton herself entertaining the possibility of snatching the nomination or being Obama's VP, I can't see PUMAs and whatever being able to keep the media's attention for long.

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

AUG 19, 2008 08:56 AM

Don't have much to say about this other than the ensuing chaos should be rather entertaining. Oh, and I had a great laugh over the title of this piece. Nice, FTR wink

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

AUG 19, 2008 09:08 AM

Rude_Ruca said:
Don't have much to say about this other than the ensuing chaos should be rather entertaining. Oh, and I had a great laugh over the title of this piece. Nice, FTR wink



Oh, I'm sure you'll have something useless and inflammatory to add at some point.

JekyllAndHyde

JekyllAndHyde

Baltimore, MD
April 2005

AUG 19, 2008 09:48 AM

If Hillary has these 18 million supporters like they claim, why don't they all just donate a dollar to her campaign debt? That would pretty much wipe it out. So there either aren't nearly as many supporters as they claim or they're not nearly as enthused as they claim.

Jace

Jace

San Francisco, CA
February 2004

AUG 19, 2008 12:02 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

AUG 19, 2008 12:05 PM

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

AUG 19, 2008 12:09 PM

Hooraydiation said:

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?


And before that Al Gore.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

AUG 19, 2008 12:11 PM

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



We'll miss you. Remember to send a postcard.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

AUG 19, 2008 12:14 PM

ckdexterhaven said:

Hooraydiation said:

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?


And before that Al Gore.



If Taft beats Bryan, so help me I'll vacate these United States!

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

AUG 19, 2008 12:55 PM

Hooraydiation said:

ckdexterhaven said:

Hooraydiation said:

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?


And before that Al Gore.



If Taft beats Bryan, so help me I'll vacate these United States!



what's not to love about Taft? he's the kind of guy you could spend a day with at an all-you-can-eatery. besides, if Teddy says he's bully, then bully for him!

DannyDMc

DannyDMc

Fargo, ND
July 2003

AUG 19, 2008 01:31 PM

Hooraydiation said:

ckdexterhaven said:

Hooraydiation said:

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?


And before that Al Gore.



If Taft beats Bryan, so help me I'll vacate these United States!



Oh come on, Bryan's HAD his chance; twice before as a matter of fact! I mean, I'm a good Irish Democrat and all, but TR hasn't done a terrible job and, with Taft being his successor and all, I might give the man a shot. I mean, he can't run a worse campaign than Bryan did back in '00! Besides, I come from a heavily Republican state, have voted Republican for Governor before (as long as he's a Progressive, mind you!) and the Republicans really can do a pretty good job sometimes.
Besides, where else would I go? Canada!? We left the old country to get AWAY from the King, and I'll be damned if I'd move someplace else ruled by that jackass!

*sighs*

tongue tongue tongue

formerviking

formerviking

Denver, PA
May 2006

AUG 19, 2008 01:32 PM

You know they say that Taft is one bad mother...
Shut your mouth !
But I'm only talking bout Taft .
We can dig it !
waka chika waka chika

Weatherpunk

Weatherpunk

Japan
June 2008

AUG 19, 2008 01:42 PM

It's years like this one, with the election, that make me realize I live in a rather schizophrenic country. I used to seethe at it, and just play a never-ending game of "Yuck Mouth" against the politicians, but sadly I am starting to enjoy it.

There is something sexy about being bat-shit insane. o_0

Tigerwong

Tigerwong

Baltimore, MD
February 2005

AUG 19, 2008 01:43 PM

With shit like this happening, I think the primaries should have actually ended like Cloverfield:

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

AUG 19, 2008 02:45 PM

Clinton's supporters warn choosing Obama could mean a loss in November.


Shouldn't that be "choosing Biden?"

Skeletone

Skeletone

Lowell, MA
May 2008

AUG 19, 2008 03:22 PM

mydogfarted said:
Oh, I'm sure you'll have something useless and inflammatory to add at some point.



You mean useless and inflammatory like your post?

---

I have to agree that it would be massively entertaining if Hillary pulled some shenanigans at the convention. I don't think that'll happen and I don't think Obama is dumb enough to pick her as VP.



scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

AUG 19, 2008 03:32 PM

crispy said:

Clinton's supporters warn choosing Obama could mean a loss in November.


Shouldn't that be "choosing Biden?"



Freud would be tickled in a special place.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 19, 2008 04:30 PM

Bill, helping out the cause.


Former President Bill Clinton on Monday praised Senator Barack Obama's energy policy at the opening of the National Clean Energy Summit in Las Vegas.

But Mr. Clinton also lauded Mr. Obama's rival, Senator John McCain, and said that either candidate would be progressive on the issue of climate change.

"Obviously, I favor Senator Obama's energy positions, and Democrats have been by and large the more forward-leaning actors," Mr. Clinton said. "But John McCain has the best record of any Republican running for president on the energy issue and on climate change." He added, "I'm very encouraged about where the presidential rhetoric is in this campaign."




sick

sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

AUG 19, 2008 04:47 PM

DannyDMc said:

Hooraydiation said:

ckdexterhaven said:

Hooraydiation said:

Jace said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Obama doesn't win the election, I'm leaving the country.



And when you said it before, was John Kerry's name where Obama's is now?


And before that Al Gore.



If Taft beats Bryan, so help me I'll vacate these United States!



Oh come on, Bryan's HAD his chance; twice before as a matter of fact! I mean, I'm a good Irish Democrat and all, but TR hasn't done a terrible job and, with Taft being his successor and all, I might give the man a shot. I mean, he can't run a worse campaign than Bryan did back in '00! Besides, I come from a heavily Republican state, have voted Republican for Governor before (as long as he's a Progressive, mind you!) and the Republicans really can do a pretty good job sometimes.



You'll vote as the machine tells you to vote, Paddy! tongue

gdarklighter

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA
August 2005

AUG 19, 2008 05:09 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Bill, helping out the cause.


Former President Bill Clinton on Monday praised Senator Barack Obama's energy policy at the opening of the National Clean Energy Summit in Las Vegas.

But Mr. Clinton also lauded Mr. Obama's rival, Senator John McCain, and said that either candidate would be progressive on the issue of climate change.

"Obviously, I favor Senator Obama's energy positions, and Democrats have been by and large the more forward-leaning actors," Mr. Clinton said. "But John McCain has the best record of any Republican running for president on the energy issue and on climate change." He added, "I'm very encouraged about where the presidential rhetoric is in this campaign."


Hey, think of all the energy McCain has saved by not showing up for energy votes! Flying from one of his seven homes to DC uses a lot of oil, y'know.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

AUG 19, 2008 06:05 PM

Biden? Seriously? Clinton or Biden cannot be the choice. Isn't Ron Paul available? wink

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

AUG 19, 2008 06:08 PM

InnocentSid said:
Biden? Seriously? Clinton or Biden cannot be the choice. Isn't Ron Paul available? wink



You deserve this . . .

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

AUG 19, 2008 06:15 PM

coyotemike said:

InnocentSid said:
Biden? Seriously? Clinton or Biden cannot be the choice. Isn't Ron Paul available? wink



You deserve this . . .



Thank you good sir...may I have another!

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