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MTL

MTL

I'm lost
November 2002

JAN 06, 2009 04:57 PM

Roethke said:

SockPuppet said:
they changed the ending ?

To what?



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They remove the fake alien, and I imagine that they also remove the subplot about its creation.




Whaaaaat? Now they're just messing with my emotions! (*ranting*)

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JAN 06, 2009 05:03 PM

Roethke said:

SockPuppet said:
they changed the ending ?

To what?



SPOILERS! (Click to view)

They remove the fake alien, and I imagine that they also remove the subplot about its creation.




Thereby gutting the plot entirely... I should know better than to expect anything else, shouldn't I.

Thank you for the info.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JAN 06, 2009 06:09 PM

i'd be surprised if they went that far.

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i'm not sure why we're spoilering a comic that's almost as old as Jedi, but okay. probably, rather than a big floppy fake dead alien, they went with some other concept of 'failed alien invasion', leaving everything else intact.

RufusD

RufusD

United Kingdom
September 2008

JAN 07, 2009 01:42 AM

I'm just pleased for Dave that this has been finally been made..it's been in preproduction hell for an eternity.

Dave did a lot of concept art and design work for them, and acted as a consultant, so hopefully people will enjoy it.

I have to admit I prefer Dave's earlier work..like Rogue Trooper in 2000ad... I never really obsessed over Watchmen like others have..

Still... Here's hoping it's a cracker!

Ruf..Team Tank

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

JAN 07, 2009 07:01 PM

RufusD said:
I'm just pleased for Dave that this has been finally been made..it's been in preproduction hell for an eternity.

Dave did a lot of concept art and design work for them, and acted as a consultant, so hopefully people will enjoy it.

I have to admit I prefer Dave's earlier work..like Rogue Trooper in 2000ad... I never really obsessed over Watchmen like others have..

Still... Here's hoping it's a cracker!

Ruf..Team Tank



it's going to make money. Even if it's shitty i am going to go see it at least once. I wanna see Manhattan on the big screen, and the glass house looks pretty bad ass in the previews.

If it's good, i will see it multiple times. Although i mostly buy stuff on DVD's, i still like the big screen.

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

JAN 07, 2009 07:38 PM

motorfirebox said:
heh, i always have to remind myself that Watchmen is seminal when i read it, .



I feel the exact same way. It was very topical and I understand it was one of the first time certain literary and cinematic devices had been adapted into a mainstream comic. So if you had been exposed to no other form of media, it would have been a breathtaking leap forward. But I have the feeling that if you are or were just a casual consumer of comics, it wouldn't be spectacular, then or now. I like it, but I'm not overwhelmed by it and I much prefer the Sandman.


Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

JAN 08, 2009 12:07 PM

dholokov said:

motorfirebox said:
heh, i always have to remind myself that Watchmen is seminal when i read it, .



I feel the exact same way. It was very topical and I understand it was one of the first time certain literary and cinematic devices had been adapted into a mainstream comic. So if you had been exposed to no other form of media, it would have been a breathtaking leap forward. But I have the feeling that if you are or were just a casual consumer of comics, it wouldn't be spectacular, then or now. I like it, but I'm not overwhelmed by it and I much prefer the Sandman.



...and the break between Gaiman and Moore as far as comics pacing is concerned is one of the big reasons why Watchmen is considered seminal. If Sandman had been Moore's story, it would not have noodled around for twelve issues near the end.

Accuser

Accuser

Scottsdale, AZ
October 2006

JAN 08, 2009 12:20 PM

xfinitex said:
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See, this attitude I just don't get. I mean, sure, dislike 300. That's fine. But you can't really say that the book was awesome and the movie was shit, it's almost as loyal an adaptation as Sin City. Granted, they padded it with the wife's story, but the thing is like 20 pages long and they needed an hour and a half of material. But watch the movie with the book in hand, it's almost a shot-for-shot adaptation like Sin City, minus the dongs flailing about in the wind through the whole thing. I was okay with that change.

Given that he treated the book fairly and adapted it very loyally for the screen, I don't really see why we should be leery of him making Watchmen. Seems to me that if you like the book on which Schneider bases his movie, you ought to like the movie. And he certainly won't run into the problem of running out of material from the source like he did with 300.

Alan Moore will hate it, of course, but he hates everything.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

JAN 08, 2009 01:05 PM

300 was unfilmable, so the fact that it was a faithful adaptation is a little beside the point. It looked and felt like the book, and that led to an awful movie. Sin City looked and felt like the book, and it was amazing. The difference is that one simply had elements that lend themselves to film better. The one specific example I can think of is the beheading in 300. In the book it looked fine, and Miller was able to use panel and line to do what he wanted done in that part of the story. In the movie it just looked ridiculous and (pejoratively) comic-bookish.

Saying "if you liked the source material, you ought to like the movie" flies in the face of decades of evidence to the contrary, too.

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

JAN 08, 2009 01:22 PM

dholokov said:
But I have the feeling that if you are or were just a casual consumer of comics, it wouldn't be spectacular, then or now.



Yeah, that's pretty much the position I was in when I read it. It was one of the first half dozen or so graphic novels I read when I started getting into them a couple of years ago. As it is, while I liked it fine, Watchmen isn't even my favourite Alan Moore book. I'll probably go and see the film.

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