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roubles

roubles

I'm lost
June 2008

JUL 24, 2008 08:50 PM

Criticizing Obama on one issue doesn't mean I'm not going to vote for him. George Bush wouldn't talk with Iran until recently. I will see if McCain modifies his foreign policy before making a decision on a candidate.

When did Ron Paul become "my buddy"? I haven't mentioned him any in any of my posts anywhere.

The blog I listed isn't only focused on one issue but instead on all relevant and pressing economic
issues. I disagree that protecting the US corn ethanol industry is more important than lowering prices by whatever we can with Brazil ethanol. The fact that the exact amount hasn't been quantified isn't a reason not to lift the tariffs. The US corn ethanol industry isn't "needed." I have never ued corn ethanol. How can something most don't use be needed? It isn't.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JUL 24, 2008 09:21 PM

Did anyone listen to NPR today? It was Fresh Air with Terry Gross, talking with Richard Holbrooke about the Bosnian Serb politician/war criminal Radivich or whatever who was just caught.

He talked about meeting him and the general Mladic in the 90's in Yugoslavia for talks. Radovich started bragging about how he was buddies with Jimmy Carter and was talking with him and how Holbrooke had to stand down because he'd bring the wrath of Carter down on his head.

Holbrooke said "there's only one president at a time, it's Clinton at the moment, and I am his agent" but it really illustrated what a presumptuous arrogant self-important fool Carter is. He thinks he is like the shadow president, the alternative president, and he has no compunctions about cozing up to Radivan, Kim Jong-il, Castro, Chavez, etc. and fronting like he is actually a representative on the USA.

Kind of reminds me of someone.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUL 24, 2008 09:38 PM

"Radivich"? what, doesn't Alaska pay you enough to afford Hooked on Phonics?

it's Radovan Karadzic, you illiterate sloth. and i hardly see how the claims of a deposed, washed-up war criminal are any real impingement on anybody's reputation.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JUL 24, 2008 10:09 PM

motorfirebox said:
"Radivich"? what, doesn't Alaska pay you enough to afford Hooked on Phonics?

it's Radovan Karadzic, you illiterate sloth.



Personal attacks are not allowed on CE, dude.

But it's awesome how much you care about his name being properly spelled. maybe you're in his contacts with Carter.

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Pomona, CA
April 2004

JUL 24, 2008 10:21 PM

roubles said:
Criticizing Obama on one issue doesn't mean I'm not going to vote for him. George Bush wouldn't talk with Iran until recently. I will see if McCain modifies his foreign policy before making a decision on a candidate.

When did Ron Paul become "my buddy"? I haven't mentioned him any in any of my posts anywhere.

The blog I listed isn't only focused on one issue but instead on all relevant and pressing economic
issues. I disagree that protecting the US corn ethanol industry is more important than lowering prices by whatever we can with Brazil ethanol. The fact that the exact amount hasn't been quantified isn't a reason not to lift the tariffs. The US corn ethanol industry isn't "needed." I have never ued corn ethanol. How can something most don't use be needed? It isn't.



As long as you are open-minded about the impact of McCain and Obama's decisions on fuel prices, I think that we have common ground.

Sorry about the "buddy" comment; I don't thread-stalk you to see if you are pro-RP or not. Regardless, I was only semi-serious. He's just the libertarian Superman at the moment, so I had to point out his stance and I figured that I was being lighthearted enough that you wouldn't take it as an attack.

We can disagree on the issue of lower prices/corn ethanol. My stance is that the harm done to the ethanol industry outweighs the benefit of the extra fuel in the near-term. If the scale was different, it might be a different issue. The tariff doesn't only protect corn-based ethanol though. It protects cellulosic and sugar cane ethanol as well. While we might not need corn ethanol in the long run, it is our most productive ethanol source at the moment and efforts to protect it from competition also shield sugar cane and cellulosic ethanol production.

Out of curiosity, you haven't ever used corn ethanol? Perhaps it is because I live in California, but we have 10% ethanol gasoline. It's too late for me to look it up tonight, but I was under the impression that most gasoline is now around 5-10% ethanol for air quality standards. I suspect that most people do use ethanol without being aware of it. I can try finding statistics in the morning.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUL 25, 2008 12:04 AM

stockula said:

motorfirebox said:
"Radivich"? what, doesn't Alaska pay you enough to afford Hooked on Phonics?

it's Radovan Karadzic, you illiterate sloth.



Personal attacks are not allowed on CE, dude.

But it's awesome how much you care about his name being properly spelled. maybe you're in his contacts with Carter.


i'm not aware of making any personal attacks in that post. you have, through misspelling a name that any fool could google, demonstrated both illiteracy and slothfulness.

yes, i think its important to know about dangerous people. perhaps if more people shared my attitude, Karadzic would have been brought to justice years ago, rather than being allowed to pursue a life of alternative medicine for nearly a decade. but, hey--i haven't lived most of my life in ignorance. perhaps an expert such as yourself could provide some insight into the benefits of such an existence?

or would you prefer to take your toys and go home, as you usually do when faced with facts and logic?

roubles

roubles

I'm lost
June 2008

JUL 25, 2008 06:55 AM

The county I live in doesn't have 10% ethanol but some of the larger cities I have visited do and I've probably filled up there a couple of times so I stand corrected. The 10% ethanol isn't used in my area but after some research I've learned it is more widespread than I had thought.

roubles

roubles

I'm lost
June 2008

JUL 25, 2008 09:26 AM

For future reference, there is nothing "lighthearted" about casually linking someone to a vile racist like Ron Paul. Would you think it lighthearted or a joke if I linked you to David Duke?

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Pomona, CA
April 2004

JUL 25, 2008 12:04 PM

roubles said:
For future reference, there is nothing "lighthearted" about casually linking someone to a vile racist like Ron Paul. Would you think it lighthearted or a joke if I linked you to David Duke?



I did not suggest that you were racist like him. I don't think the parallel between Ron Paul and David Duke is entirely fair: if you compared me to David Duke, you would clearly be saying that I am racist (since that is the primary thing for which he is known); meanwhile, linking me to someone like Hegel (who like Paul is mostly known for non-racist stuff), for instance, would be more fair.

Also, the libertarians who do agree with Ron Paul deny that he is a racist. Had you been a fan of Ron Paul (as I mistakenly thought), then my comment wouldn't have carried an implied accusation of racism.

Regardless, I definitely did not mean to link you to his racism, just his championship of the free market. I apologize if it my comment came across as an intentional insult.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUL 25, 2008 05:18 PM

Sick said:

SockPuppet said:

Sick said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Shiny_metal_ass said:
Green crude production.
Uses algae.
Does not use farmland.
Does not use agricultural crops.
Can be refined, stored, and transported using existing facilities and infrastructure.
Produces 0 sulfur emissions.
Carbon neutral.



I like it. Algae fuel, I mean.

The website is incredibly uninformative. What is it? How do algae make fuel? How do cars run off of whatever is produced? And things like

do not result in biodiesel or ethanol
enhance, replace petroleum-based products


are just misleading. Unless these people have created some entirely new process.

But the processes I know of use algae to produce oils, and the oils are turned into biodiesel*, biogasoline, SVO, and other synthetic fuels.

End chemical makeup is the same, just the source that's different. So I guess, technically, they aren't petroleum-based, in that they weren't made from crude oil pumped from the ground. But they're still the same hydrocarbons, and they're going to produce the same greenhouse gases. That may not be an issue, but it's an something that shouldn't be glossed over.

Then again, I realize the website is a promotional thing.

*Diesel fuel made by the transesterification of vegetable oil, or algae oil in this case, rather than by refining petroleum.



IIUC, and without looking at Shiny_metal_ass's source, the algae would be photosynthetic; so their primary energy source is solar.
That should overcome the main greenhouse-gas-emission problem.

They might be nitrogen-fixing; I'd hope so. If not, nitrogenous compounds might have to be added; human urine would probably work OK.



Quite right about the greenhouse gas emission problem. Any carbon dioxide produced through the combustion of the fuel would be reused by more algae to produce more fuel. Thus it being carbon-neutral.

Which is why it may not be an issue.

However, it's still not something that should be glossed over; the "information" on the website could possibly be construed as meaning no greenhouse gases are produced at all, which isn't true. It may be of concern if greenhouse gas emissions are a local health topic, for example.



I'm not disagreeing.

roubles

roubles

I'm lost
June 2008

JUL 25, 2008 05:30 PM

RedBstrd said:

roubles said:
For future reference, there is nothing "lighthearted" about casually linking someone to a vile racist like Ron Paul. Would you think it lighthearted or a joke if I linked you to David Duke?



I did not suggest that you were racist like him. I don't think the parallel between Ron Paul and David Duke is entirely fair: if you compared me to David Duke, you would clearly be saying that I am racist (since that is the primary thing for which he is known); meanwhile, linking me to someone like Hegel (who like Paul is mostly known for non-racist stuff), for instance, would be more fair.

Also, the libertarians who do agree with Ron Paul deny that he is a racist. Had you been a fan of Ron Paul (as I mistakenly thought), then my comment wouldn't have carried an implied accusation of racism.

Regardless, I definitely did not mean to link you to his racism, just his championship of the free market. I apologize if it my comment came across as an intentional insult.



Sorry for overreacting. For some reason I assume the worst. I will work on not doing that. I hadn't followed Ron Paul's campaign much. I read some of those newsletters for the first time today and I don't know how libertarians could say he's not a racist.

Sick

Sick

Minneapolis, MN
June 2003

JUL 25, 2008 05:36 PM

SockPuppet said:

Sick said:

SockPuppet said:

Sick said:

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Shiny_metal_ass said:
Green crude production.
Uses algae.
Does not use farmland.
Does not use agricultural crops.
Can be refined, stored, and transported using existing facilities and infrastructure.
Produces 0 sulfur emissions.
Carbon neutral.



I like it. Algae fuel, I mean.

The website is incredibly uninformative. What is it? How do algae make fuel? How do cars run off of whatever is produced? And things like

do not result in biodiesel or ethanol
enhance, replace petroleum-based products


are just misleading. Unless these people have created some entirely new process.

But the processes I know of use algae to produce oils, and the oils are turned into biodiesel*, biogasoline, SVO, and other synthetic fuels.

End chemical makeup is the same, just the source that's different. So I guess, technically, they aren't petroleum-based, in that they weren't made from crude oil pumped from the ground. But they're still the same hydrocarbons, and they're going to produce the same greenhouse gases. That may not be an issue, but it's an something that shouldn't be glossed over.

Then again, I realize the website is a promotional thing.

*Diesel fuel made by the transesterification of vegetable oil, or algae oil in this case, rather than by refining petroleum.



IIUC, and without looking at Shiny_metal_ass's source, the algae would be photosynthetic; so their primary energy source is solar.
That should overcome the main greenhouse-gas-emission problem.

They might be nitrogen-fixing; I'd hope so. If not, nitrogenous compounds might have to be added; human urine would probably work OK.



Quite right about the greenhouse gas emission problem. Any carbon dioxide produced through the combustion of the fuel would be reused by more algae to produce more fuel. Thus it being carbon-neutral.

Which is why it may not be an issue.

However, it's still not something that should be glossed over; the "information" on the website could possibly be construed as meaning no greenhouse gases are produced at all, which isn't true. It may be of concern if greenhouse gas emissions are a local health topic, for example.



I'm not disagreeing.



I know. I was just clarifying my position. smile

realistic67

realistic67

Vancouver, BC
August 2005

JUL 27, 2008 04:13 AM

Wow... I'm amazed....

Just north of you.... outside of America... People in Canada for the most part felt that American's on the whole treated Jimmy Carter to a really raw deal throughout his presidency. Blaming him personally for things really outside of his control. The Energy crisis, the late 1970's recession ( brought on after America left Vietnam ) and Iran. That guy was really, doing his job as president. Trying to tell you the hard facts as what the world was going to be like. Especially if you just continued to consume and destroy. And fuel the military industrial machine past the point of sanity. Did you listen???

No you booted him out the door as soon as you could. But, not before you mocked him.

( I work with alot of really great American's - The artsy ones who tour shows up here ) So I had faith. I knew one day that you'd all, one by one. Start to wake up from your ongoing nightmare of a nation that the republicans have dealt back to you in return thease last 30 years. While they've sold their souls to business lobby groups. lined their pockets with international company stocks, and pork barrel deals laid inside stupid bills..

It's nice to see that your realising for the most part. That you were all quite foolish and nieve for listening to the republican diatribe of : " It's not your fault, it's that evil government 's fault.....Or....Those guys!!!! Over There.!!!! who aren't Americans!!!! - let's get rid of them.!!! - P.S. While we spend all your money on doing that, but refuse to raise taxes... please look the other way at some pop culture, and continue to buy shit "

It's sad that's it's taken this long. And it almost feels like it's too late to save you as a superpower. but it's nice to see the signs, out on the internet, of the pendulum swinging back towards some balance.

And poor Jimmy? What's he been up to?

( While everyone commenting here has decided to use this comment section as a Bio fuel debate. Or trying too score points for or against Obama )

Building homes for the homeless across the world and even now in your own poor states and counties, wrecked by Hurricanes and Tornados. All, while trying to use his past influence as your past president, to continue working for world Peace.

You all owe him an apology. And a friendly chat over coffee, at least.

r00kers

r00kers

Nederland, CO
February 2003

JUL 27, 2008 04:08 PM

He is now fighting an idiot damn project in Northern Georgia that he once helped squash as governor.

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