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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

JUL 16, 2008 04:40 PM

Ron Paul's campaign manager, Kent Snyder, was not provided with health insurance by his employer. (That would be Ron Paul) Snyder was hospitalized two months ago due to pneumonia and ran up $400,000 in hospital bills. Then he died.


Gay staffers from the Paul campaign, some speaking on condition that they not be identified, said they learned about Snyder's unpaid medical bills from a web site created by his friends that calls on Paul supporters to contribute to a special fund to help Snyder's family pay the bills, which come mostly from a two-month hospitalization. So far, the site (kentsnyder.com) has raised about $32,000.

"I can't believe he didn't have health insurance," said one political activist who read about Snyder's unpaid medical bills in a story published last month in the Wall Street Journal. "I can't believe that Ron Paul didn't give him health insurance," said the activist, who asked not to be identified.



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Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 16, 2008 04:41 PM

Did the straight staffers not care?

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

JUL 16, 2008 04:51 PM

He died for Ron Paul's sins people!

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

JUL 16, 2008 04:51 PM

coyotemike said:
Did the straight staffers not care?

lOl, I was wondering that as well.

Among the points raised, according to Max and others involved in the Paul campaign, is the fact that Paul is a practicing physician. Some of the Paul supporters are asking why a medical doctor, whose campaign raised $35 million in contributions, chose not to offer health insurance for his staff.

Really? People are debating this?

ALSO: FTR, is there a way you can make it so you don't have to start an account to post on your blog? Several times I was going to write something then moved on 'cause I don't want to start an account.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUL 16, 2008 05:35 PM

No health insurance for his employees eh? That is so Ron Paul. Ultra-libertarianism! After all, isn't health care just welfare for your immune system?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

JUL 16, 2008 05:43 PM

_kungfoo_ said:
No health insurance for his employees eh? That is so Ron Paul. Ultra-libertarianism! After all, isn't health care just welfare for your immune system?



Maybe Ron tried to buy them insurance, but the insurance companies wouldn't accept RP-dollahs.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

JUL 16, 2008 05:44 PM

coyotemike said:

_kungfoo_ said:
No health insurance for his employees eh? That is so Ron Paul. Ultra-libertarianism! After all, isn't health care just welfare for your immune system?



Maybe Ron tried to buy them insurance, but the insurance companies wouldn't accept RP-dollahs.



I wonder if they rushed him to the hospital in a medevac blimp.

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUL 16, 2008 05:46 PM

_kungfoo_ said:
No health insurance for his employees eh? That is so Ron Paul. Ultra-libertarianism! After all, isn't health care just welfare for your immune system?



Indeed.

contrast

contrast

Minneapolis, MN
January 2004

JUL 16, 2008 07:02 PM

atlas shrugged

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

JUL 16, 2008 09:39 PM

I liked the part that said:


But according to a scorecard on the voting records of members of Congress on gay-related issues, Paul voted against the interests of gays on all issues other than the marriage amendment. In the Human Rights Campaign scorecard for the 109th Congress (2005-2006), the latest scorecard that the group has issued, Paul received a score of 38 on a scale from 0 to 100.

According to HRC, Paul received a score of 25 for the 108th Congress (2003-2004) and a 0 in the 107th Congress (2000-2002).

Similar to most libertarians, Paul opposed bills like the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, or ENDA, which would ban employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, and a hate crimes bill, which would authorize the federal government to prosecute anti-gay hate crimes, on grounds that such legislation improperly expands government powers.



From the original source.

Fixer

Fixer

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 16, 2008 09:52 PM

is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

JUL 16, 2008 09:53 PM

Fixer said:
is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!



For the fuckin Flu, no less. surreal

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 16, 2008 10:45 PM

Fixer said:
is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!



Shock generally contains an element of surprise. I can't imagine someone being surprised that hospitals and health care in general are extremely expensive.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 16, 2008 10:54 PM

Thistle said:

Fixer said:
is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!



Shock generally contains an element of surprise. I can't imagine someone being surprised that hospitals and health care in general are extremely expensive.



You're supposed to come to the libertarian conclusion that health care is only that expensive because of regulation, welfare, mandated subsidized care, and insurance, and that it will be more expensive if insurance is mandated.

::edit:: oh yeah, and illegal immigrants.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 16, 2008 10:56 PM

Shalome said:

Thistle said:

Fixer said:
is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!



Shock generally contains an element of surprise. I can't imagine someone being surprised that hospitals and health care in general are extremely expensive.



You're supposed to come to the libertarian conclusion that health care is only that expensive because of regulation, welfare, mandated subsidized care, and insurance, and that it will be more expensive if insurance is mandated.

::edit:: oh yeah, and illegal immigrants.



SHIT. It's clearly been too long since I read any Rand. Scuse me, gotta go pick up Anthem at the all nite book store.

atomicant

atomicant

Portland, OR
June 2003

JUL 16, 2008 10:57 PM

Thistle said:

Shalome said:

Thistle said:

Fixer said:
is no one shocked and outraged by $200k/mo hospital charges?!



Shock generally contains an element of surprise. I can't imagine someone being surprised that hospitals and health care in general are extremely expensive.



You're supposed to come to the libertarian conclusion that health care is only that expensive because of regulation, welfare, mandated subsidized care, and insurance, and that it will be more expensive if insurance is mandated.

::edit:: oh yeah, and illegal immigrants.



SHIT. It's clearly been too long since I read any Rand. Scuse me, gotta go pick up Anthem at the all nite book store.



and to think i once respected you...

tongue

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

JUL 19, 2008 09:29 PM

The source article is pretty terrible in its premise. Health insurance would have paid the bills (presumably,) but what has that got to do with the quality of the care Snyder received, or his stewardship of his own health?

Health insurance is not a right, and nor should it be thought as one. Snyder chose not to purchase health insurance; why should anyone care, apart from the ones he's closest to? He was arguably being irresponsible to his family. But to suggest Paul was being irresponsible, or cheap, or whatever, is wrong.

I think anyone who can afford health insurance is kind of crazy not to, but I hardly think we should force people to buy insurance, nor do I think we should force others to pay for it.

Screw Ayn Rand, by the way. Her version of libertarian thought is not my cup of tea... she was far too impressed with powerful people, and cared not at all about average folks.

ScottrickBurdoit

ScottrickBurdoit

Cheshire, CT
February 2008

JUL 20, 2008 12:38 AM

_kungfoo_ said:
No health insurance for his employees eh? That is so Ron Paul. Ultra-libertarianism! After all, isn't health care just welfare for your immune system?



No, they need to feel the liberating freedom of leaving their families enormously in debt after they die of illness. Is not man entitled to the sweat of, uh, getting completely extorted by the medical community.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 20, 2008 06:39 AM



Health insurance is not a right, and nor should it be thought as one.





she was far too impressed with powerful people, and cared not at all about average folks



Yes, I can see how Libretardiism is all about caring about average folks. As long as they completely fend for themselves.

whatever

Rude_Ruca

Rude_Ruca

I'm lost
December 2004

JUL 20, 2008 08:13 AM

^^^ SMA< since you have me on ignore (how convenient) per your comment in my blog, that is according to your opinion. It's a shame that the world has yet to understand the nature of what I am referring to in my post...In fact, I invite you to take this discussion to that board. I noticed you hadn't sounded off there, yet...

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 20, 2008 08:38 AM

I've had you on ignore for months. I'm sure lots of people do. You should be used to it by now.

Bill_the_Cat

Bill_the_Cat

Vanier, ON
May 2005

JUL 20, 2008 09:06 AM

livertarian said:
Health insurance is not a right, and nor should it be thought as one.



...That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...



I don't know, but to me reasonable access to health care seems like it would be the primary way to ensure ones right to life...

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUL 20, 2008 09:47 AM

Reasonable access yes, however seeing as how any healthcare plan we come up with now will somehow be an enforced payment to an insurance company who may or may not actually pay out your claim, I'll stick with the system we have now.

Which is not to say that I don't think people should be denied healthcare, I just do not believe that the plans as they exist now in this country for universal healthcare are sound.

RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

JUL 20, 2008 09:48 AM

Rude_Ruca said:
^^^ SMA< since you have me on ignore (how convenient) per your comment in my blog, that is according to your opinion. It's a shame that the world has yet to understand the nature of what I am referring to in my post...In fact, I invite you to take this discussion to that board. I noticed you hadn't sounded off there, yet...



This post doesn't belong here. If someone has you on ignore, please just accept it. There's no reason why your personal issue should be taken to a thread that is completely unrelated to it.

I am not picking on you; I just don't see how this belongs here. If you would like to contribute to the discussion, great. If you are just thread-stalking, that's probably not kosher (and against the TOS).

If SMA doesn't want to continue a conversation with you for whatever reason, it's best to just let it go. I am sure you have a number of other people with which you can interact on this site.

Ff

Ff

I'm lost
August 2006

JUL 20, 2008 09:48 AM

You know it is still possible for a person to do good in this world without the government compelling them to do so..... With guns.

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