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dagan

dagan

Minneapolis, MN
March 2003

NOV 04, 2003 05:12 PM

Sorry, Doctor. I guess I'm ignorant.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

NOV 05, 2003 03:05 AM

DrNecessitor said:

plonk said:
It is possible to honor someone who, on balance, did far more good than evil (like Luther) even though he held some vile opinions.



http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html

'Vile opinions?' A powerful, influential man espoused violent antisemitism, causing incalculable suffering. Inexcusable.




If there's anything inexcusable, it's vile opinions. Especially if they're vile opinions of jews - I've seen enough HBO to understand that anti-semitism + something something = Nazis. Due to a papery complexion, the Jewish community is almost constantly threatened by mass extinction by any society within which they are contained, making any unfriendly remark about jews - especially those my grandma makes - equatable to xenocide. It's both... exactly DrNecessitor, both incalcuable and inexcusable. Let's do the right thing and expose Luther for the vile scab he was after we finish beating some sense into my grandma.


[Edited on Nov 05, 2003 by Jeff_Fries]

ADW1138

ADW1138

Colfax, NC
October 2003

NOV 05, 2003 04:18 PM

Luther could be commended for sticking to what he believed in even in the face of great oppostion. Of course what he believed was utterly ridiculous, though slighlty less than those who opposed him. The Reformation probably led to the destruction of Christianity and the post-Christian society we all know and love. Thank God for Luther! Now if we could only get rid of pathetic hangers-on like George Bush and my brother who actually celebrated Reformation Day instead of Halloween.

r00kers

r00kers

Nederland, CO
February 2003

NOV 06, 2003 07:45 PM


Can you tell me which writings of Luther those quotes come from and did you read the rest of that work?


1. The Jews and Their Lies(1543)
2. No

My wife, Summa Cum Laude in history, knows a lot more about these sorts of things than I do. Her vocation, one of my avocations. Her honours thesis delved pretty heavily into the origins of the reformation and the early humanists, especially Wycliffe.
It is possible to honor ideas. Humans are pretty soiled for the most part.

Flux

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

NOV 06, 2003 09:51 PM

eecummings said:
It is possible to honor ideas. Humans are pretty soiled for the most part.



well said. which is why i only date books and computers.

Ben

Ben

Marietta, MS
January 2003

NOV 09, 2003 01:56 AM

Flux said:

well said. which is why i only date books and computers.



Books I can date, computers maybe....if they are a Mac. I might make an exception for an Alienware machine though...

And, as far as people go, I just don't seem to be able to get rid of my nagging optimism. I'm sure it'll eventually be crushed by further reality TV shows, though.

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