Bush and France

It's really a big big myth that people in Europe "place low importance of personal hygiene", a myth like that people in the US don't walk and always use the car for even short distances.

I think the fundamental difference is that being religious gives an US politician some extra credibility (he is a spiritual man, so we can trust him) while a religious european politician would be considered to be the opposite (he is so religious, can we really trust him and will he be a good one for our countrry?)

Thanks for the quotation Robin, it's much appreciated.

Following on with this train of thought, the next thing that'll happen is some nation will show how pathetic they are by renaming things that involve the word 'French'...oh, hang on a second, it's not like that is already a subject of great hilarity in the actually civilised world or anything...

Fortunately the French don't seem to be so idiotic nor blinkered.

One op-ed columnist. ONE (and Friedman happens to be right).

[Edited on Oct 31, 2003 by stockula]

And the French definitely fall into the latter category.

The civilised world knows about the 'Freedom Fries' incident too and we still laugh at the idiocy of it...

Au contraire, mon ami.

There are indications of a concerted effort to discredit France through the mainstream media.

see story

Serious accusations - supplying military parts, issuing passports, supplying biological weapons. All based on un-named sources. Wonder where the information came from? None of this speculation ever panned out.

While most of the anti-French coverage came from completely disreputable sources ( such as the Washington Times and Fox), there has been an identifiable undercurrent of anti-French sentiment running through the media during the war. Much of it has been puerile in nature: the French are snotty and arrogant; they don't wash; cheese-eating surrender monkeys; etc.

" I actually like being in france. It's just the only problem are the French, they live there too." - Tucker Carlson/CNN Crossfire

Please back up this assertion!

Stockula said:

You have not the slightest idea what you're talking about. Using worn out clichés to define a culture is pathetic, racist and the source of many wars.

K

[Edited on Nov 01, 2003 by Kinto_mE]

Well, the french DO eat snails (fresh escargots with white wine, garlic, and butter is fucking delicious-- compare to the Meat-from-a-tube at taco bell) and DO let their children drink wine (and have a fraction of the numbers per-capita of alcoholics and underage binge-drinkers we do), but I've been to france and I've been to a nascar race, and if you're going to run with this whole stereotype thing, they've got america beat on hygiene hands down.

Here's what I think of the French response to Iraq:

Jacques Chirac realized the sentiment amongst the French people was to not go to war with Iraq until UN sanctions had been given a chance to work. For all the French-bashing afterwards, this, essentially, was also the position of the American public. But rather than making a series of misleading statements -- if not outright lies -- to try to cajole the French public into the war, Chirac chose to follow their will -- as the President of a "democratic" nation should -- and opposed the war.

And for doing what he was elected to do, Rummie came out and called France part of "old Europe", and the Bushies threw a country that's been our ally for decades -- and which was giving us critical support in the larger War on Terrorism, which is pretty much shattered now -- out of a temper tantrum.

It would be nice to have a President who didn't treat the people of his country like sheep that can be manipulated to go the way you want them to.

LOL LOL LOL

I just like to see what i eat, what I drink. I'm french do you remember ????

I never eat some snails you know.... never eat a frog.

coughee : young people in France don't drink wine. We used to drink , like all young people all around the word, vodka or whisly and so on....

For this blog
http://merdeinfrance.blogspot.com/

I'm totally chocked. You know why ? Because I can understand french and english. And I can see the transation in english is not reality. This blog is racist and says horrible things to arabs and black people.

They write with "black accent" because they think it is funny.....

For an example if I want to see news from USA? should I go to a KKK website ? I don't think so

jake_lex. You're right and wrong.... How to explain that ?
Chirac has been elected but he shouldn't. I know USA newspapers wrote about that. We have "choice" between a racist man and Chirac. So we elected Chirac. Chirac is not against war I think. He wants oil . BUt he has no choice because WE do not want.

The question is : What can we do for irak people ? Yes Saddam Hussein was an horrible person ; everybody knows that !

But we have to realize that ALL OUR contries had relations with him ! France has received him, do not forget that ! and some american people have commercial relations with him. We can kill him ou put in jail many years ago.

For me what is the strategy of Bush ? He sees the 11thseptember. He knows he can not arrest Ussama Bin Laden. And american people feel lonely and afraid by 11th september. and for very old and idiot people, War is something to unite people. Somebody has told that in the beginning of this discussion ; we are with bush because we are on war !

You know maybe some people like stockula should speak with french people instead of thinking of what they think .

Maybe I'm not the good one because I don't speak very well ! I come here because I can speak with american persons and I think it is essential no ?