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SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUN 13, 2008 05:02 PM

_kungfoo_ said:

cthulhu said:

Sydni said:
That is just so fucked up and ignorant.

Is there a petition or something we can all sign to get them off the fucking air?



This sounds like the right call. Perhaps a petition we can sign and turn in to the FCC or something? Is that effective? I'd like to think so.



I don't like it either, but, um... First Amendment anybody?

Best way to kill Fox? Ignore them. And the next time somebody cites Fox News as a source when you're having a political discussion with them, laugh in their face.



And cite this as a reason.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

JUN 14, 2008 08:04 AM

attn_ho said:
yeah, the non apology is 'we excercised poor judgement' Ive been hearing so much these days, it translates automatically to 'we in no way regret our actions'



I always took that to mean "I didn't mean to say that... out loud," or alternately, "I didn't mean to get caught saying that out loud."

LostLucy

LostLucy

USA
December 2006

JUN 14, 2008 09:41 AM

This sort of slander is going to escalate, and it is infuriating, and this sort of unprofessional racist incendiary shit makes me miss Tim Russert -- a flawed human like the rest of us -- all the more. frown

cthulhu

cthulhu

Miami Beach, FL
April 2008

JUN 17, 2008 02:10 PM

bald_eagle said:
In 1960, the anti-Catholic rhetoric actually ended up helping Kennedy. It could work that way again with the racist crap. And then there's the benefit of FOX discrediting itself.



Valid point. I remember reading an article in '95 or so entitled,"The Well Meaning Racist". To the best of my memory it basically explained how racism is so engrained in our society that many people don't even realize they're racist. An example would be the now proverbial,"Some of my best friends are ________ (insert race here)". All the while the person is stereotyping and generalizing about said race in a subtle but subversive manner.

I've met my fair share of this type of person and I can't help but wonder if maybe this is an example of the same but magnified by the fact that it happened to a "respected" media outlet. I'm just playing devil's advocate here but I think the larger problem is how many people out there got a kick out of it but don't think they're racist.

The question of race and racism is a very convoluted and complex issue in America. I only hope if and when Obama is president, and even if he isn't, we as a nation will be able to iron out some of these wrinkles racism places in the fabric of American life.

cthulhu

cthulhu

Miami Beach, FL
April 2008

JUN 18, 2008 09:49 AM

bald_eagle said:

cthulhu said:
The question of race and racism is a very convoluted and complex issue in America. I only hope if and when Obama is president, and even if he isn't, we as a nation will be able to iron out some of these wrinkles racism places in the fabric of American life.


It is complex, because much of it was ingrained in people's upbringing. I think Obama's speech following the first go-around about his minister was a great start to the dialogue that needs to occur.



On top of upbringing, it's also weaved into the fabric of society at large. I know amongst my circle of friends and co-workers, race is such a non-issue we freely make fun of each other's race knowing there isn't any real racism behind it. Do you think that is something that should be stopped as a whole or should race be such a non-issue that it would be a "thing of the past" eventually and people will just joke about it and no one will be offended ultimately? I think humor goes a long way in empowering people to feel at peace with the issue of race.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUN 18, 2008 11:33 AM

humor is a dangerous but occasionally useful tool. the guys in my BCT unit--New Yorkers, Texans, Haitians, a dude from Russia (or one of those countries that faces its Bs the wrong way), people from all over the planet--didn't really bond until about a week into training, when we spent several hours after lights-out laughing while everyone told the most horribly racist jokes they could come up with.

two weeks earlier, in the in-processing unit, a white dude got punched in the mouth for saying "nigga please" while reciting a Chris Rock sketch.

Towelly

Towelly

Philadelphia, PA
January 2007

JUN 18, 2008 12:26 PM

I for one am still waiting on the Gloria Steinem op-ed in the New York Times. Movement feminists wouldn't put up with this crap when it was Hillary that was getting smeared, and they've always said that they made no distinction between the difficulties of black and white women, so . . .what's the hold up Gloria?

I for one want to hold movement feminists's feet to the fire on this.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

JUN 19, 2008 12:02 AM

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUN 19, 2008 12:45 AM



i think it comes down to the usage, there, sparky. she used it as a tongue-in-cheek term of endearment, whereas Fox seems to have used it to belittle the "outraged liberals."

there's also another word that has precedence for special treatment when it comes to racial discrimination. Randy Marsh had to kiss Jessie Jackson's ass (literally) to try to make up for saying it.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 19, 2008 01:20 AM



language is a strange, subtle and difficult thing to master.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

JUN 19, 2008 06:23 AM

nice.

cthulhu

cthulhu

Miami Beach, FL
April 2008

JUN 19, 2008 01:05 PM

"I'm so liberal I don't even feel comfortable saying vinegar!" -Ryan Stout

poeticdesires

poeticdesires

Baltimore, MD
June 2005

JUN 19, 2008 01:16 PM

i CAN'T watch foxnews. there is a subway near my job that keeps foxnews on the tv in their eating area. this guy named glenn beck was on one day when i ate dinner with my boyfriend. we had to leave. i was talking to the tv and getting very VERY angry. he tried to keep me calm, but i wasn't having it. and i'm a normally pleasant person.

i CAN'T watch foxnews. mad

poeticdesires

poeticdesires

Baltimore, MD
June 2005

JUN 19, 2008 01:19 PM

attn_ho said:



language is a strange, subtle and difficult thing to master.




there are no words....so i'll use letters

OMG!!
LMAO!!!
ROTF!!!

biggrin

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUN 19, 2008 01:23 PM

cthulhu said:
"I'm so liberal I don't even feel comfortable saying vinegar!" -Ryan Stout



think you might be missing the point, quotey boy.

CodyW

CodyW

Lubbock, TX
December 2004

JUN 19, 2008 01:39 PM

I don't particularly like Fox News, but how is using the phrase "... baby's mama" racist? Ignorant, yes. But, how does this qualify as a racist statement? Racism involves dominance. This is just stupidity.

cthulhu

cthulhu

Miami Beach, FL
April 2008

JUN 20, 2008 11:07 AM

attn_ho said:

cthulhu said:
"I'm so liberal I don't even feel comfortable saying vinegar!" -Ryan Stout



think you might be missing the point, quotey boy.



I was just quoting him as an example of how the subject of racism can be used for humor.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUN 20, 2008 11:59 AM

"what you talking about?"

'John McCain called his wife the worst word there is.'

"but she's not even black!"

*everybody stares*

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

JUN 20, 2008 05:08 PM

scylis said:
"what you talking about?"

'John McCain called his wife the worst word there is.'

"but she's not even black!"

*everybody stares*



+1

abbazappa

abbazappa

Sacramento, CA
June 2006

JUN 20, 2008 05:13 PM

poeticdesires said:
i CAN'T watch foxnews. there is a subway near my job that keeps foxnews on the tv in their eating area. this guy named glenn beck was on one day when i ate dinner with my boyfriend. we had to leave. i was talking to the tv and getting very VERY angry. he tried to keep me calm, but i wasn't having it. and i'm a normally pleasant person.

i CAN'T watch foxnews. mad


Glenn Beck is on CNN Prime News Channel not Foxnews wink

Colinism

Colinism

Atlanta, GA
July 2005

JUN 24, 2008 07:23 PM

Erm wrong thread. sorry.

Lily

Lily

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUN 25, 2008 07:54 AM

Sadly, This doesn't surprise me in the least.

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