Sydni said:
That is just so fucked up and ignorant.
Is there a petition or something we can all sign to get them off the fucking air?
This sounds like the right call. Perhaps a petition we can sign and turn in to the FCC or something? Is that effective? I'd like to think so.
I don't like it either, but, um... First Amendment anybody?
Best way to kill Fox? Ignore them. And the next time somebody cites Fox News as a source when you're having a political discussion with them, laugh in their face.
attn_ho said:
yeah, the non apology is 'we excercised poor judgement' Ive been hearing so much these days, it translates automatically to 'we in no way regret our actions'
I always took that to mean "I didn't mean to say that... out loud," or alternately, "I didn't mean to get caught saying that out loud."
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LostLucy
USA
December 2006
JUN 14, 2008 09:41 AM
This sort of slander is going to escalate, and it is infuriating, and this sort of unprofessional racist incendiary shit makes me miss Tim Russert -- a flawed human like the rest of us -- all the more.
bald_eagle said:
In 1960, the anti-Catholic rhetoric actually ended up helping Kennedy. It could work that way again with the racist crap. And then there's the benefit of FOX discrediting itself.
Valid point. I remember reading an article in '95 or so entitled,"The Well Meaning Racist". To the best of my memory it basically explained how racism is so engrained in our society that many people don't even realize they're racist. An example would be the now proverbial,"Some of my best friends are ________ (insert race here)". All the while the person is stereotyping and generalizing about said race in a subtle but subversive manner.
I've met my fair share of this type of person and I can't help but wonder if maybe this is an example of the same but magnified by the fact that it happened to a "respected" media outlet. I'm just playing devil's advocate here but I think the larger problem is how many people out there got a kick out of it but don't think they're racist.
The question of race and racism is a very convoluted and complex issue in America. I only hope if and when Obama is president, and even if he isn't, we as a nation will be able to iron out some of these wrinkles racism places in the fabric of American life.
cthulhu said:
The question of race and racism is a very convoluted and complex issue in America. I only hope if and when Obama is president, and even if he isn't, we as a nation will be able to iron out some of these wrinkles racism places in the fabric of American life.
It is complex, because much of it was ingrained in people's upbringing. I think Obama's speech following the first go-around about his minister was a great start to the dialogue that needs to occur.
On top of upbringing, it's also weaved into the fabric of society at large. I know amongst my circle of friends and co-workers, race is such a non-issue we freely make fun of each other's race knowing there isn't any real racism behind it. Do you think that is something that should be stopped as a whole or should race be such a non-issue that it would be a "thing of the past" eventually and people will just joke about it and no one will be offended ultimately? I think humor goes a long way in empowering people to feel at peace with the issue of race.
humor is a dangerous but occasionally useful tool. the guys in my BCT unit--New Yorkers, Texans, Haitians, a dude from Russia (or one of those countries that faces its Bs the wrong way), people from all over the planet--didn't really bond until about a week into training, when we spent several hours after lights-out laughing while everyone told the most horribly racist jokes they could come up with.
two weeks earlier, in the in-processing unit, a white dude got punched in the mouth for saying "nigga please" while reciting a Chris Rock sketch.
I for one am still waiting on the Gloria Steinem op-ed in the New York Times. Movement feminists wouldn't put up with this crap when it was Hillary that was getting smeared, and they've always said that they made no distinction between the difficulties of black and white women, so . . .what's the hold up Gloria?
I for one want to hold movement feminists's feet to the fire on this.
i think it comes down to the usage, there, sparky. she used it as a tongue-in-cheek term of endearment, whereas Fox seems to have used it to belittle the "outraged liberals."
there's also another word that has precedence for special treatment when it comes to racial discrimination. Randy Marsh had to kiss Jessie Jackson's ass (literally) to try to make up for saying it.
i CAN'T watch foxnews. there is a subway near my job that keeps foxnews on the tv in their eating area. this guy named glenn beck was on one day when i ate dinner with my boyfriend. we had to leave. i was talking to the tv and getting very VERY angry. he tried to keep me calm, but i wasn't having it. and i'm a normally pleasant person.
I don't particularly like Fox News, but how is using the phrase "... baby's mama" racist? Ignorant, yes. But, how does this qualify as a racist statement? Racism involves dominance. This is just stupidity.
poeticdesires said:
i CAN'T watch foxnews. there is a subway near my job that keeps foxnews on the tv in their eating area. this guy named glenn beck was on one day when i ate dinner with my boyfriend. we had to leave. i was talking to the tv and getting very VERY angry. he tried to keep me calm, but i wasn't having it. and i'm a normally pleasant person.
i CAN'T watch foxnews.
Glenn Beck is on CNN Prime News Channel not Foxnews
SockPuppet
I'm lost
July 2006
JUN 13, 2008 05:02 PM