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Coyotemike

USA

May 2006

JUN 20, 2008 01:51 PM

SergeantPsycho said:
It's plain as day given that statistic that we're making sure we capture the right guys and release the wrong ones. Likewise, it's logical to assume that a good number of dangerous detainees will be released on a technicality, or something of that nature, and then re-enter circulation.

Really? We're capturing the right ones? So, that must be why we've released nearly 2/3 of the prisoners held there, mostly after keeping them there for 5 years.

How would you like to disappear for 5 years for the simple reasons that your neighbors didn't like you and could make a few dollars by turning you in as a "terrorist."

LSlice

Montclair, NJ

December 2007

JUN 20, 2008 01:53 PM

coyotemike said:

SergeantPsycho said:
It's plain as day given that statistic that we're making sure we capture the right guys and release the wrong ones. Likewise, it's logical to assume that a good number of dangerous detainees will be released on a technicality, or something of that nature, and then re-enter circulation.

Really? We're capturing the right ones? So, that must be why we've released nearly 2/3 of the prisoners held there, mostly after keeping them there for 5 years.

How would you like to disappear for 5 years for the simple reasons that your neighbors didn't like you and could make a few dollars by turning you in as a "terrorist."

Well theoretically, you couldn't since you're not a foreign national. But without habeas corpus, there is no way to challenge your designation as such.

felony187

Denver, CO

June 2007

JUN 20, 2008 01:59 PM

LSlice said:

coyotemike said:

SergeantPsycho said:
It's plain as day given that statistic that we're making sure we capture the right guys and release the wrong ones. Likewise, it's logical to assume that a good number of dangerous detainees will be released on a technicality, or something of that nature, and then re-enter circulation.

Really? We're capturing the right ones? So, that must be why we've released nearly 2/3 of the prisoners held there, mostly after keeping them there for 5 years.

How would you like to disappear for 5 years for the simple reasons that your neighbors didn't like you and could make a few dollars by turning you in as a "terrorist."

Well theoretically, you couldn't since you're not a foreign national. But without habeas corpus, there is no way to challenge your designation as such.

It's called a hypothetical statement, meant to imply a point. And Senor Coyotemiguel it was a very fine hypothetical statement.

SockPuppet

I'm lost

July 2006

JUN 20, 2008 05:20 PM

Torture at Guantanamo reported.

Medical examinations of former terror suspects held by US troops showed proof of physical and psychological torture, a US-based human rights group said.

SockPuppet

I'm lost

July 2006

JUN 20, 2008 06:10 PM

Toku666 said:

SergeantPsycho said:

Toku666 said:
That's the amazing thing about Sarge's new argument. Why on earth would one think that you couldn't find a non-juried venue that would have the clearance to try these cases? Or, failing that, as has been pointed out several times, create one?

WAKE UP and look things up before you type, Sarge! You're only hurting yourself by hurling the circular invective at this situation.

You certainly didn't look anything up about the detainee rentention rate at Gitmo before going on to paint it as Bush's personal gulag where random people are locked up forever. It's plain as day given that statistic that we're making sure we capture the right guys and release the wrong ones. Likewise, it's logical to assume that a good number of dangerous detainees will be released on a technicality, or something of that nature, and then re-enter circulation. Besides, it's not like our courts are perfect, unless you believe that OJ didn't kill his wife.

Don't put words in my mouth, cock-nugget.

I can give a fuck about the detainee retention rate. People have been held there, WRONGLY, for more than five years. So what is "plain as day" to me is (and I'm going to repeat myself here, because you obviously have some kind of neuron calcification) we released the wrong ones (TWO-THIRDS of them, so far) after FIVE fucking years. Five years. Here's an idea: go put yourself in a box for five years and don't do anything but eat shitty food and watch some TV. Then come back and let us know what that did for you. In normal circumstances I would expect it would effect a change in your point of view, but, Sarge, this is you we're talking about, so:

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

...and congratulations on the new user pic. It makes you look exactly like the brain-dead mutant zombie that you are. You actually looked like you could maybe be an okay guy in your old one.

I applaud. Loudly.

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA

March 2004

JUN 20, 2008 08:37 PM

Toku666 said:
Five years. Here's an idea: go put yourself in a box for five years and don't do anything but eat shitty food and watch some TV.

don't forget to have someone waterboard you every day and question you about crimes you didn't commit.

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA

August 2005

JUN 20, 2008 08:46 PM

SockPuppet said:

Toku666 said:

SergeantPsycho said:

Toku666 said:
That's the amazing thing about Sarge's new argument. Why on earth would one think that you couldn't find a non-juried venue that would have the clearance to try these cases? Or, failing that, as has been pointed out several times, create one?

WAKE UP and look things up before you type, Sarge! You're only hurting yourself by hurling the circular invective at this situation.

You certainly didn't look anything up about the detainee rentention rate at Gitmo before going on to paint it as Bush's personal gulag where random people are locked up forever. It's plain as day given that statistic that we're making sure we capture the right guys and release the wrong ones. Likewise, it's logical to assume that a good number of dangerous detainees will be released on a technicality, or something of that nature, and then re-enter circulation. Besides, it's not like our courts are perfect, unless you believe that OJ didn't kill his wife.

Don't put words in my mouth, cock-nugget.

I can give a fuck about the detainee retention rate. People have been held there, WRONGLY, for more than five years. So what is "plain as day" to me is (and I'm going to repeat myself here, because you obviously have some kind of neuron calcification) we released the wrong ones (TWO-THIRDS of them, so far) after FIVE fucking years. Five years. Here's an idea: go put yourself in a box for five years and don't do anything but eat shitty food and watch some TV. Then come back and let us know what that did for you. In normal circumstances I would expect it would effect a change in your point of view, but, Sarge, this is you we're talking about, so:

Go. Fuck. Yourself.

...and congratulations on the new user pic. It makes you look exactly like the brain-dead mutant zombie that you are. You actually looked like you could maybe be an okay guy in your old one.

I applaud. Loudly.

I'm a one-man standing ovation over here.

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JUN 20, 2008 05:20 PM

I'm lost

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Pittsburgh, PA

March 2004

JUN 20, 2008 08:37 PM

San Diego, CA

August 2005

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