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LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 09:44 PM

So, I've noticed alot of talk here about who has more delegates and such (between Clinton and Obama), and discussions about superdelegates.

Something occurred to me. You might be in trouble. Here's why.

The media either doesn't understand the primary process, or don't care to understand. The pledged delegate totals don't necessarily represent actual delegates. You have to actually show up at your state convention and elect delegates.

On the other side of the spectrum, the Ron Paul Revolution has been hard at work on this part of the process. And boy, is it alot of work. But this post isn't about Ron Paul. Despite being outnumbered by my estimates at least four to one by the neo-cons (even more in the theoretical media delegate count), and having the GOP establishment, incredibly against us, we have made alot of headway in getting our delegates into position. In fact, the GOP had to shut down the Nevada state convention because we had the majority. They have been doing a party purge in Missouri to keep our delegates out. They have been conducting closed door pre-convention meetings to amend the rules to make them more favorable to their agenda.

Why should you care? Here's why. Obama has nowhere near the lead over Clinton in either supporters or theoretical delegates that McCain has over Paul. Clinton knows the process, and probably has alot of the party infrastructure behind her. If her legions of union bosses, organized crime types, and numerous other characters have been paying more attention to the delegate process then Obama's people, you are screwed. Did any of you become delegates? Collect signatures? Learn the state party by-laws? Study Robert's Rules of Order?

In short, is there any reason to believe Obama has as many delegates as the media claim? What have the results of the state conventions been so far?

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

MAY 25, 2008 09:55 PM

you either get the really good stuff or the really cheap stuff.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 25, 2008 09:57 PM

zoom image

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 09:58 PM

Hey, I'm just trying to help you out here. While I don't like Obama, I friggin' hate Clinton.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 25, 2008 10:01 PM

LSlice said:
Hey, I'm just trying to help you out here. While I don't like Obama, I friggin' hate Clinton.


you have a bad case of libertardation. also, a minor dose of trollishness.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:19 PM

I see what you're saying here. RON PAUL WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!! Then Obama, Clinton and McCain will transform into Republican Voltron and fight Ron Paul. PEWPEWPEW.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

MAY 25, 2008 10:21 PM

_kungfoo_ said:
I see what you're saying here. RON PAUL WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!! Then Obama, Clinton and McCain will transform into Republican Voltron and fight Ron Paul. PEWPEWPEW.



GO GO POWER RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

_margot_

_margot_

Los Angeles, CA
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 10:23 PM

attn_ho said:
zoom image



blush biggrin

AceT

AceT

Portland, OR
April 2004

MAY 25, 2008 10:24 PM

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 25, 2008 10:28 PM

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:32 PM

The only thing I can say for certain is that Keith Olbermann's head is going to explode unless this ends sometime soon. And it might happen on the air. It'll be like something straight out of Scanners.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 25, 2008 10:35 PM

ckdexterhaven said:
The only thing I can say for certain is that Keith Olbermann's head is going to explode unless this ends sometime soon. And it might happen on the air. It'll be like something straight out of Scanners.



nah, we havent EVEN gotten up to ten broadcasted 'hints' for shooting.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:38 PM



Actually, myself among others might have taken this thread seriously if any sort of citation(s) were provided.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 10:46 PM

_kungfoo_ said:



Actually, myself among others might have taken this thread seriously if any sort of citation(s) were provided.



I can only cite sources for what we have been doing (Ron Paul). I haven't been paying attention to the democrats.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:49 PM

LSlice said:

_kungfoo_ said:

Actually, myself among others might have taken this thread seriously if any sort of citation(s) were provided.



I can only cite sources for what we have been doing (Ron Paul). I haven't been paying attention to the democrats.



Then what's your basis for this post?

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

MAY 25, 2008 10:49 PM

Man oh man, I wonder what other types of kicks home-slice LSlice must be getting over in Libertarian land.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 10:50 PM

_kungfoo_ said:

LSlice said:

_kungfoo_ said:

Actually, myself among others might have taken this thread seriously if any sort of citation(s) were provided.



I can only cite sources for what we have been doing (Ron Paul). I haven't been paying attention to the democrats.



Then what's your basis for this post?




Yes. I thought the post was pretty straight forward.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:53 PM

Also, note that the neocons make up a relatively small portion of the Republican Party. While they currently demand massive influence over the party, the general consensus is that it is fleeting. Most conservatives don't believe in nation-building.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

MAY 25, 2008 10:57 PM

ckdexterhaven said:
The only thing I can say for certain is that Keith Olbermann's head is going to explode unless this ends sometime soon. And it might happen on the air. It'll be like something straight out of Scanners.



oh, it won't "explode," per say... see, Keith Olbermann's real name is Bruce Banner.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

MAY 25, 2008 10:59 PM

LSlice said:

_kungfoo_ said:

LSlice said:

_kungfoo_ said:

Actually, myself among others might have taken this thread seriously if any sort of citation(s) were provided.



I can only cite sources for what we have been doing (Ron Paul). I haven't been paying attention to the democrats.



Then what's your basis for this post?




Yes. I thought the post was pretty straight forward.



I realize shotgun politics may be common for the Libertarians but you've failed to argue or convince anyone (quite apparently) that Hillary can get/steal the nomination in the realm of the Democratic Party.

Thus the reason that backing up your argument with factual information is crucial.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 25, 2008 11:00 PM

LSlice said:
I can only cite sources for what we have been doing (Ron Paul).


Youve been doing Ron Paul? and youre willing to cite sources? ewwww.

I hope you at least angled for a threesome with his wife.

LSlice

LSlice

Montclair, NJ
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 11:00 PM

_kungfoo_ said:
Also, note that the neocons make up a relatively small portion of the Republican Party. While they currently demand massive influence over the party, the general consensus is that it is fleeting. Most conservatives don't believe in nation-building.



I could go on and on about this. My general sense is, the neo-cons are quite happy to purge the ideological conservatives. They are apparently happy with the fundies and jingoists.

DevilsReject

DevilsReject

Cleveland, OH
February 2007

MAY 25, 2008 11:10 PM

i thought Ron Paul got eaten by black holes?

Necia

Necia

San Francisco, CA
August 2005

MAY 25, 2008 11:11 PM

_kungfoo_ said:
I see what you're saying here. RON PAUL WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!! Then Obama, Clinton and McCain will transform into Republican Voltron and fight Ron Paul. PEWPEWPEW.



Awesome.

_margot_

_margot_

Los Angeles, CA
December 2007

MAY 25, 2008 11:13 PM

DevilsReject said:
i thought Ron Paul got eaten by black holes?



Keep dreaming.

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