as long as they didn't shoot themselves in the foot, procedure wise by videotaping it and spreading it around the internets, I say good on them. The gloating is a bit much, but I can't say I wouldn't be feeling or acting a little self satisfied if I caught someone who had stolen a car from me.
basically, if the thief is able to get off on a legal technicality stemming from the way he was caught...then I'd feel like a damn fool...otherwise, fair game.
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Cash
USA
OLD SKOOL
APR 14, 2008 01:49 PM
I'm a firm believer in the theroy that if you fuck with a man's car...you deserve everything you get...legal or otherwise.
I'm more or less a pretty easygoing guy (in person)...but if you fuck with my vehicle in any way...we're gonna tangle. I'm serous...I flip out on those people who put leaflets under your windshield wiper in parking lots.
a few years back, my bike was stolen, and i'm pretty into biking so this wasn't a huffy or some shit, it was a flatland bike built up part-by-part by myself and a friend who had just died while backcountry snowboarding, leaving that bike as my only physical memorial of him.
when a friend and i eventually found the thief, we didn't kick him within an inch of his life because we had stumbled upon him him half a block from the police station (attack a crackhead or grab the cops isn't a tough choice) but man... the anger. the feeling of all that pent up frustration finally having a target, and that target being an utter douchebag. if the guys in the video had found the guy who stole that car and videotaped themselves beating him mercilessly, i wouldn't have batted an eye.
still, the responsible (and good karma) thing to do was go get the cops, so i commend them for a) being smart and resourceful in finding the dude and b) pinning the car in one spot until the cops came without doing anything more than taunting the guy.
MrCrisp said:
awww, poor criminal. can't stand a little ridicule and exposure.
Well, that's the point, isn't it? He's not a criminal until the facts have been sorted out--and I don't mean on the internet--and he either confesses or is found guilty after a legal process. It's slow, but the opposite of this is called "fascism."
No, someone is a criminal the moment they commit a crime. They are presumed innocent in the legal system until the facts have been sorted out and he has been found guilty through a standard legal process. As observers we don't have to suspend judgment until a trial has taken place (unless we plan to serve on the jury).
It's not "fascism" unless the court system presumes him guilty before the legal process. That issue, however, is independent of what people removed from the jury and court say or believe.
By the way, if you want to throw around the label "fascist" I should point out that a prostrate public/civil society - one that is unable/forbidden to form or voice opinions until the government (or its branches) has told them what to think - is an attribute of a fascist society.
Yup. Nice analysis. I shot myself right in the ass. Not the right word at all. It really is a magic word, isn't it?
DevilsReject said:
vigilante? they called the cops when they needed to, it's not like they tried to make the arrest. I would have said they were vigilantes if they made a decisive move to try to capture the said dumb-ass car thief, but all they did was barricade a road and call the cops.
Bill_the_Cat
Vanier, ON
May 2005
APR 14, 2008 12:49 PM