NEWS: Iraq Asshole Fuckface Roundup!

Now that's a good analogy.

Seconded.

Indeed, a hangnail excellent analogy to a minor annoyance like fearing for yourself and everyone you love over a knock on the door in the middle of the night, or being shoved feet first into a wood chipper.

Also, I thought I heard the term civil war thrown around at one point. What makes you so sure there would be any less of one if they over through Saddam with out us?

I like that Analogy.

This one was brought up to me in a conversation with a teacher a couple weeks ago in school.

Some Countries assume our administration to be horrific monsters. Imagine if a country invaded the United States, hunted down George Bush and prosecuted him for everything he did wrong according to them. But in the mean time, destroyed everything, including your way of life, in the attempt to hunt him down. They then hung around to find Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and what the hell, let's throw Ted Kennedy in there. They attached themselves to our economy, and utilized our resources for their own good. They would search everything and everywhere for them, you're house, you're car, they would invade your personal life completely.

There would be some people that would be happy that George Bush and the administration were out of power, but there would me more people that would be unhappy because their lives are utter chaos now.

Then it would be their civil war, which is something they would have to work out for themselves. Without our interference. And again, it would be self-determination, rather than a foreign power coming in and forcing a political system the people aren't ready for down their throats.

There is also an issue about the public perception of W's legitimacy. What price democracy, if it takes a Supreme Court decision to decide who won? I won't go over all the stuff about hanging chads and ballot papers with names in strange places; we all know about that. But it gives a funny view of how "democracy" is supposed to work, and how desirable it might be.

There is going to be one irregardless if we were/are there or not. That's just my opinion.

It would be one thing if the civil war had started prior to us being there, and one of the sides asked us for assistance in order to win that civil war, and we made a decision to go ahead and be part of it, or just keep our distance.

But what we did as a foreign power, was go in, remove the leader, stated "this is in your best interest" and then tried to force our way of life on them. We gave them a one option choice, democracy, take it or leave it.

Even if by chance we do get a democracy established in Iraq, chances are, due to the lifestyle and beliefs in that region, it will be overthrown and diminished quickly after we leave. A civil war will then succeed that to determine who is going to be in charge.

As Saddam did, and the United States is presently doing, we are basically just preventing that civil war from happening, we're preventing the inevitable.

I think it's more likely that they hate us because we bombed the crap out of them, then invaded and occupied their country without justification. Destroying most of their infrastructure and killing thousands of civilians didn't help, either.

I'm still waiting for a source on your assertion that Hussein killed hundreds of thousands, by the way.

so sort of a modern seppuku? like the sound of that!