Condi must have played a bit too much Barry White for Bush before he got onto a video conference with troops serving in Afghanistan, because he effectively told some soldiers there, "You got, you got what I WANT!"
I must say, I'm a little envious. If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed. It must be exciting for you in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks.
Well, some of our guys and gals who've already returned from Afghanistan seem to be a bit put off by Bush's words. In fact, I suspect they will be taking him off their Valentines list next year.
"As a combat wounded veteran who served in Afghanistan, I have to disagree with the President's assertion that the war in Afghanistan is romantic. There was nothing romantic about having to dig through our trash during operation Anaconda because we ran out of food and were awaiting a resupply. As American soldiers always do, we accomplished the mission; but there was nothing romantic about it."
-BRIAN MCGOUGH, OEF VETERAN (2001-2002, ARMY)
"I didn't feel like there was anything romantic in not seeing my daughter grow up, in watching Afghan children starve to death, in explaining repeated deployment extensions to my soldiers, in explaining to Afghans that we were there to keep them safe - while knowing that we would never have enough troops to actually do so. No, Mr. President, there's nothing romantic about being sent on an important mission and not being given the tools to accomplish it."
-JIM MORIN, OEF VETERAN (2003, ARMY)
"President Bush is wrong. I seriously doubt any of us Infantryman in Operation Anaconda found it exciting or romantic when the Taliban and al Qaeda were firing mortar rounds at us and our fellow soldiers."
I hope the men who were quoted don't suffer for speaking out, but in this country I'd be surprised if they didn't end up on the Do Not Fly list at the least.
coyotemike said:
Well, what do you expect from someone who got all his combat experiance watching John Wayne and Audie Murphy movies while inAWOL from the Air National Guard?
Seriously, Subrosa is right. The fact that he calls it "romantic" goes to show just how seriously he takes the wars he's started, and just how well he understands them. Which is to say, not at all.
coyotemike said:
Well, what do you expect from someone who got all his combat experiance watching John Wayne and Audie Murphy movies while inAWOL from the Air National Guard?
Fixed.
I didn't want to go there, since I am still confused about how things really were after the CBS snafu.
coyotemike said:
Well, what do you expect from someone who got all his combat experiance watching John Wayne and Audie Murphy movies while inAWOL from the Air National Guard?
Fixed.
I didn't want to go there, since I am still confused about how things really were after the CBS snafu.
My understanding is that with nearly two years left to go in his commitment to the Texas Air National Guard, Bush refused to take a mandatory physical exam (presumably to avoid drug testing), was suspended from flying, and subsequently stopped showing up for duty - and that for some mysterious reason he never faced any consequences for these lapses.
Does that more or less sum it up, or does someone know something I don't?
Does that more or less sum it up, or does someone know something I don't?
That appears to sum up nicely according to various sources. He was obligated from 1968 through 1974 and stopped showing up in mid-1972 after losing his flight status for failing to show up for a physical.
coyotemike said:
Well, what do you expect from someone who got all his combat experiance watching John Wayne and Audie Murphy movies while inAWOL from the Air National Guard?
Fixed.
I didn't want to go there, since I am still confused about how things really were after the CBS snafu.
My understanding is that with nearly two years left to go in his commitment to the Texas Air National Guard, Bush refused to take a mandatory physical exam (presumably to avoid drug testing), was suspended from flying, and subsequently stopped showing up for duty - and that for some mysterious reason he never faced any consequences for these lapses.
Does that more or less sum it up, or does someone know something I don't?
I met a really romantic guy yesterday who served in Iraq and had both of his legs blown off by a makeshift bomb. I cannot imagine how romantic it must have been being in a Humvee when they hit that bomb, metal and body parts flying around, blood and surely the lovely tones of some Celine Dion song playing in the background. Luckily for this guy he can still walk on two high tech metal legs and go to the store with his lovely wife. I am sure that they have some really romantic nights looking at the cool metal legs.
coyotemike said:
Well, what do you expect from someone who got all his combat experiance watching John Wayne and Audie Murphy movies while in the Air National Guard?
Someone had to protect Texas from the Mexicans during vietnam, silly!
...too bad even that wasn't possible for Shrub, as he had a campaign to work on elsewhere, of course...
Oskar said:
I thought everyone already knew that fighting a war is all Pina Coladas and laying in the toasty Iraqi sand(y beaches)..
you had pina coladas!?!?!!?! our M3712.b government issued blender broke our first day in the shit and we had to make do with whiskey sours and white russians the whole time. fuckin' POGs!
It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks.
What is under the ellipsis? I went to the sourced article from Slate, and poked around CNN and a few other places but couldn't find it.
DO NOT THINK THAT I AM FORMING ANY KIND OF DEFENSE. I just get really annoyed when any member of the press aids presidential bullshit in any way, but in a flip of the coin, if this turns out to be a bunch of overreaction because some meaning-changing words were omitted, I don't want that to end up creating sympathy for Bush.
On the other other hand, despite having a pretty amazing vocabulary, I still can't come up with something to connect "for you" to "in some ways romantic" that doesn't still sound like some freeze-dried ol' bullshit.
ASSH0LE
Las Vegas, NV
June 2003
MAR 15, 2008 10:22 AM