NEWS: Feel The Pride, America!

MisterSatan said:
I guess I earned that by thinking UpTight was anything more than the trolliest of trolly trolls.

1983boy said:
Maybe it is just me, but the real sadness behind this story is the language in which the original article is written in. Both the tone and the topic of the story is reminicint of Vietnam and Post-Vietnam Era hate propaganda. This type of trash journalism is the kind that had America spitting on a generation of its warriors as they returned home.

1983boy said:
Maybe it is just me, but the real sadness behind this story is the language in which the original article is written in. Both the tone and the topic of the story is reminicint of Vietnam and Post-Vietnam Era hate propaganda. This type of trash journalism is the kind that had America spitting on a generation of its warriors as they returned home.

mingol said:

I was wondering how long it would take for one of these posts to show up.

With regards to this...

... the treatment described in the article more or less proves you wrong, in case you hadn't noticed.

goodpoltergeist said:

because sending the severed fingers of captive civilians, American and otherwise, to U.S. officials is so much better.

1983boy said:
Maybe it is just me, but the real sadness behind this story is the language in which the original article is written in. Both the tone and the topic of the story is reminicint of Vietnam and Post-Vietnam Era hate propaganda. This type of trash journalism is the kind that had America spitting on a generation of its warriors as they returned home.

1983boy said:
Maybe it is just me, but the real sadness behind this story is the language in which the original article is written in. Both the tone and the topic of the story is reminicint of Vietnam and Post-Vietnam Era hate propaganda. This type of trash journalism is the kind that had America spitting on a generation of its warriors as they returned home.

RedBstrd said:

Events such as the My Lai Massacre were what shifted public opinion so strongly against the Vietnam War.

1983boy said:
Maybe it is just me, but the real sadness behind this story is the language in which the original article is written in. Both the tone and the topic of the story is reminicint of Vietnam and Post-Vietnam Era hate propaganda. This type of trash journalism is the kind that had America spitting on a generation of its warriors as they returned home.

smithers_jones said:

You are totally right about that Reaper guy, but the idea of Vets being spat on turns out to be more myth than reality.

goodpoltergeist said:

because sending the severed fingers of captive civilians, American and otherwise, to U.S. officials is so much better.

goodpoltergeist said:

because sending the severed fingers of captive civilians, American and otherwise, to U.S. officials is so much better.

BlastProcessing said:

Could you go ahead and explain to us soldier-spitting Commie pinko bastard peaceniks exactly how being "the good guys" somehow translates into being "the guys who take it almost as far as the bad guys, but not quite"?

scylis said:
just because the morals and social mores of those we find ourselves in conflict with are antiquated and brutal in comparison to the majority of the major powers in the world, thereby opening themselves up to being labeled "bad guys," does not make us, by default, the "good guys."

UpTight said:
Wanna piss and moan about the occasional, probably unavoidable shortcomings of America? Fine - but don't be angry if people question your loyalties and values.

willam9 said:

jesus christ, i am such an idiot. here i was thinking thomas jefferson had envisioned a system of government that could be freely critisized by its people without fear of persecution. my god, that might lead to a situation where the shortcomings of that government would have to be addressed...

attn_ho said:

thats pre 9/11 thinking. sorry, were fighting the worst most dangerous enemy ever now.

willam9 said:

we don't prosecute soldiers for killing soldiers. however, i believe the geneva convention defines a soldier as a combatant who wears a uniform fighting for an organized military structure as a part of a recognized government. al- qaeda and the taleban don't fall into these catgories, aren't recognized by any international treaty as made up of legitimate soldiers and are thus categorized as unlawful enemy combatants (not to endorse a bastardized bushism). they, therefore aren't protected under the "rules of war," formally or otherwise, and are subject to prosecution under many international laws.
that being said, i still think we need to take a hard look at what defines our humanity and us as a nation. mistreatment of a child who was indoctrinated into a terrorist organization is still mistreatment of a child and this will help to negatively color the world's view of modern america. thus, i don't think we need to "recognize the rules of war" since the organizations we are engaging don't do such; however, i think we need to recognize that the treatment of this child in guantanamo presents a real risk of pushing us one step closer to becoming the 'enemy' we are supposed to be fighting.