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FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 29, 2008 03:05 PM

Is this a Rudy Giuliani ad, or a Hillary Clinton ad?

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

FEB 29, 2008 03:06 PM

The call...it's coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!!

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 03:09 PM

And, the Obama reply.


"The question is not about picking up the phone. The question is: What kind of judgment will you make when you answer?" Obama said as he campaigned in Texas ahead of crucial contests here and in Ohio on Tuesday.

"We've had a red phone moment. It was the decision to invade Iraq. And Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer," Obama said.

Ferretbite

Ferretbite

Mexico
September 2006

FEB 29, 2008 03:12 PM

Somehow I think if the phone rings at 3 AM in the White House, Bill's the one who'll answer and the greeting would be something along the lines of "I told you not to call me here"

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 03:16 PM

coyotemike said:
And, the Obama reply.


"The question is not about picking up the phone. The question is: What kind of judgment will you make when you answer?" Obama said as he campaigned in Texas ahead of crucial contests here and in Ohio on Tuesday.

"We've had a red phone moment. It was the decision to invade Iraq. And Senator Clinton gave the wrong answer. George Bush gave the wrong answer. John McCain gave the wrong answer," Obama said.



Oh snap! I love this man's wit, I really do.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 29, 2008 03:19 PM

Someone on another site pointed out that the phone rings six times before she picks it up, and wonders whether she was asleep in the Oval Office.

Also, her campaign strategist (the woefully inept Mark Penn) says it's a "positive ad". surreal

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 03:24 PM

bean said:
Someone on another site pointed out that the phone rings six times before she picks it up, and wonders whether she was asleep in the Oval Office.

Also, her campaign strategist (the woefully inept Mark Penn) says it's a "positive ad". surreal



Maybe he thinks "positive" and "desperate" mean the same thing.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 29, 2008 03:30 PM

And now her campaign is threatening to sue Texas because of their combo primary/caucus.

It's only been the way they've done it in Texas for decades. Suddenly, Hillary wants it to stop.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 29, 2008 03:35 PM

Jesus, everywhere I look her campaign is doing something more retarded. Here's a letter they sent out today:


To: Interested Parties
From: The Clinton Campaign
Date: Friday, February 29, 2008
RE: Obama Must-Wins

The media has anointed Barack Obama the presumptive nominee and he's playing the part.

With an eleven state winning streak coming out of February, Senator Obama is riding a surge of momentum that has enabled him to pour unprecedented resources into Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont.

The Obama campaign and its allies are outspending us two to one in paid media and have sent more staff into the March 4 states. In fact, when all is totaled, Senator Obama and his allies have outspent Senator Clinton by a margin of $18.4 million to $9.2 million on advertising in the four states that are voting next Tuesday.

Senator Obama has campaigned hard in these states. He has spent time meeting editorial boards, courting endorsers, holding rallies, and - of course - making speeches.

If he cannot win all of these states with all this effort, there's a problem.

Should Senator Obama fail to score decisive victories with all of the resources and effort he is bringing to bear, the message will be clear:

Democrats, the majority of whom have favored Hillary in the primary contests held to date, have their doubts about Senator Obama and are having second thoughts about him as a prospective standard-bearer.



Basically, what we are saying is that if Obama doesn't totally kick the living shit out of us -he sucks.

So, vote Hillary.

AngelDevoid

AngelDevoid

USA
January 2008

FEB 29, 2008 03:40 PM

The NYTimes mention they produced the ad, but have they played it in any markets? Or is it for the media to take on for a cycle?

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

USA
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 03:57 PM

AngelDevoid said:
The NYTimes mention they produced the ad, but have they played it in any markets? Or is it for the media to take on for a cycle?



Probably played it in Ohio, Texas, and maybe the next few primary states.

wheezy_e

wheezy_e

Boulder City, NV
April 2004

FEB 29, 2008 04:14 PM

bean said:
Someone on another site pointed out that the phone rings six times before she picks it up, and wonders whether she was asleep in the Oval Office.



Nah, it's 3 am in the commercial. she's fully dressed with makeup and jewelry on. She probably just needed to put the mirror and razor in the drawer or something.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

FEB 29, 2008 04:16 PM

What role does the president usually play in the event of a national emergency right when he or she is first notified? From what I recall, President Bush didn't leave his seat when he received news of the initial attack on 9/11, and to me that suggests that the scenario portrayed is false and that the president isn't relied upon for a swift and decisive response in the event of something akin to a terrorist attack.

That can't be the case though, right?

phrogg

phrogg

Greenville, SC
August 2005

FEB 29, 2008 04:17 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Jesus, everywhere I look her campaign is doing something more retarded. Here's a letter they sent out today:


To: Interested Parties
From: The Clinton Campaign
Date: Friday, February 29, 2008
RE: Obama Must-Wins

The media has anointed Barack Obama the presumptive nominee and he's playing the part.

With an eleven state winning streak coming out of February, Senator Obama is riding a surge of momentum that has enabled him to pour unprecedented resources into Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont.

The Obama campaign and its allies are outspending us two to one in paid media and have sent more staff into the March 4 states. In fact, when all is totaled, Senator Obama and his allies have outspent Senator Clinton by a margin of $18.4 million to $9.2 million on advertising in the four states that are voting next Tuesday.

Senator Obama has campaigned hard in these states. He has spent time meeting editorial boards, courting endorsers, holding rallies, and - of course - making speeches.

If he cannot win all of these states with all this effort, there's a problem.

Should Senator Obama fail to score decisive victories with all of the resources and effort he is bringing to bear, the message will be clear:

Democrats, the majority of whom have favored Hillary in the primary contests held to date, have their doubts about Senator Obama and are having second thoughts about him as a prospective standard-bearer.



Basically, what we are saying is that if Obama doesn't totally kick the living shit out of us -he sucks.

So, vote Hillary.



So, subtext #1 is... he spent twice as much as us, so if he doesn't win by a 2 to 1 margin, I should be the nominee.

Subtext #2: Hillary, the reason he's outspent you is because he's raised more money then you, because more people have donated to his campaign, because more people like him than you!!!

Ferretbite

Ferretbite

Mexico
September 2006

FEB 29, 2008 04:24 PM

Hooraydiation said:
What role does the president usually play in the event of a national emergency right when he or she is first notified? From what I recall, President Bush didn't leave his seat when he received news of the initial attack on 9/11, and to me that suggests that the scenario portrayed is false and that the president isn't relied upon for a swift and decisive response in the event of something akin to a terrorist attack.

That can't be the case though, right?



Yeah but you can't measure Bush by normal human standards, especially not when it comes to reaction in the face of a crisis, leadership qualities and such.

No, but seriously, I think you're making a very good point.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

FEB 29, 2008 04:26 PM

Obama's response is pretty awesome.


starbuck42

starbuck42

I'm lost
February 2007

FEB 29, 2008 04:45 PM

bean said:
Someone on another site pointed out that the phone rings six times before she picks it up, and wonders whether she was asleep in the Oval Office.

Also, her campaign strategist (the woefully inept Mark Penn) says it's a "positive ad". surreal


They misquoted him. He said "apositive."

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

FEB 29, 2008 05:15 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Obama's response is pretty awesome.




Ha! So full of win.

PRockGirlScout

PRockGirlScout

Portland, OR
October 2005

FEB 29, 2008 05:23 PM

That was one of the most mild campaign ads I've ever seen. Certainly not a compelling or effective ad either, but I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about. The whole "experience" angle is as old as elections themselves. We're just used to hearing it from an incumbent. And it's not a convincing ploy then either. *shrug*

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

FEB 29, 2008 05:35 PM

bald_eagle said:
It's analogous to the Daisy Girl spot used against Goldwater in 1964.

That one was criticized as being too much of a play on fear. And it was used against the opposing party's candidate.

When she said she would "do anything" to become president, she meant it.



Please. she hasnt murdered anyone yet...




... HAS SHE?!?

Frenchinhaler

Frenchinhaler

Ames, IA
March 2005

FEB 29, 2008 06:01 PM

When that ad first started playing the first thing I thought was for ADT. They do have something in common though, they both play on your fears. The difference is ADT is usually more reassuring at the end.

As a side note, Mark Penn is crazy, as there is nothing even remotely positive about that ad. Guess we already knew that though.

Also, this is not a new low, its the same low taken in a slightly different direction.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

FEB 29, 2008 06:08 PM

attn_ho said:

bald_eagle said:
It's analogous to the Daisy Girl spot used against Goldwater in 1964.

That one was criticized as being too much of a play on fear. And it was used against the opposing party's candidate.

When she said she would "do anything" to become president, she meant it.



Please. she hasnt murdered anyone yet...




... HAS SHE?!?



There are alot of unsolved murders in America wink

Nessuno

Nessuno

Washington, DC
May 2006

FEB 29, 2008 06:52 PM

PeaArrOhSeeKay said:
That was one of the most mild campaign ads I've ever seen. Certainly not a compelling or effective ad either, but I'm not sure what everyone is so upset about. The whole "experience" angle is as old as elections themselves. We're just used to hearing it from an incumbent. And it's not a convincing ploy then either. *shrug*



I think it's that she just criticized Obama for Republican tactics, which to me means scare tactics, and the subtext of her new ad is that bad shit is coming and connects the safety of your children in their beds to her being in office. It wasn't blatant, but the subtext of fear was there. Honestly it's not as big an act of hypocrisy as people make it seem, but any fear tactic is just particularly glaring given her shrill complaints about tactics were less than a week ago.

Postblank

Postblank

New Brunswick, NJ
June 2004

FEB 29, 2008 07:14 PM

Every time Hillary trips over her own feet, I chuckle and think of what her concession speech will sound like.

Remember Hillary. Shit sandwich = tastes great. Obama '08

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

FEB 29, 2008 07:19 PM

So, if Hillary ends up on the ticket as VP, are all of the people here who loath Hillary going to vote for her?

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