Immigrant crime no longer an excuse

If the numbers are different than the numbers are different. However the source used by "Trolly McTrollerson" did read "seventeen percent of prisoners are foreign-born." And wanting them all to be illegal immigrants will not make them so and he offered not alternate or supporting data.

The only source that you provided has

13% is a long way from 25%.

Being able to understand and interpret data is an important skill that our schools are not teaching.

Yes. It is. I noted that the other number came from an article last year in the print edition of the Los Angeles Times. Since the full text isn't available online,. I figured a quote of hte number and a cited source (i.e. the LA Times) would be sufficient for now. But Here is a link to the abstract. Feel free to pay for full access, but the quote I am referencing is "Federal officials estimated that about 40,000 of the 170,000 inmates who go through L.A. County jails each year are in the United States illegally."

For someone who is stressing the importance of correct statistical
interpretation, that's a pretty broad generalization, don't you think?

And maybe I'm reading that wrong, but it seems a bit like a slam on my education and by extension, my intelligence. Which is odd, since you have no idea about either, and your problem with my post was actually you jumping the gun, not me "being [un]able to understand and interpret data".

If you want to have a pissing contest about the quality of our respective educations, I guess we can. But a) I will probably win and b) it's idiotic. A better solution would be amending the sweeping generalization you made about "our" schools, and leaving me out of it.

That said, no hard feelings! CE makes me testy. So does student loan debt. Combining CE with a perceived attack on the quality of my education is a highly inflammatory combo! You have been warned.

Yup.

Hey, you're good at that! Aww...look who's ALSO smart! It's YOU! You're a little smarty! Yay for you! I will give you a balloon when I see you next time, for being such a smart, brave little boy!

Thank you. I like balloons.

Especially if they are filled with coke, freshly excreted from an immigrants ass!!

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Shiny_Metal_Ass said:

FearTheReaper said:

Saraah said:

FearTheReaper said:

Saraah said:
blah blah blah, I'm better than you

Yup.

Hey, you're good at that! Aww...look who's ALSO smart! It's YOU! You're a little smarty! Yay for you! I will give you a balloon when I see you next time, for being such a smart, brave little boy!

Thank you. I like balloons.

Especially if they are filled with coke, freshly excreted from an immigrants ass!!

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

That's it, I'm putting magnets on your head.

100% of iIlegal immigrants, ipso facto, are criminals.

science be praised, i'd never have known that if you hadn't mentioned it.

*golf clap*

So naturally, you support stopping illegal immigration and enforcing the law. Because it is so obvious.

You will not. Don't lie.

100% of people who smoke/sell/possess pot are criminals.

Yes

So naturally you support stopping the illegal consumption and distribution of pot and enforcing the law. Because it is so obvious.

Well, that's the point I am trying to make. Law enforcement is no slouch in busting dope growers and users but for some reason won't enforce laws against illegal immigrants. We all know it is perfectly capable of doing so, it goes against the demon weed. Why the reluctance to enforce the law against illegal immigrants?

and here we go......

i would have thought living up here would have shown you how stupid most of the US drug laws were. do you not have many friends up here, or something?

most of the illegal immigrants in the US are illegal only because we heavily increased the requirements for immigration. most of the people who came to this country looking for a better future wouldn't have gotten in by today's standards. they're only criminals because we've gotten a stick up our ass compared to the ideals we as a country once imagined we stood for.

I don't care about drugs. If people want to wreck their lives I dont care.

Yes, it is a lot easier to ignore the law than follow it. However, it is still the law. And you must pay if you break it, and it is not right to reward scofflaws for breaking the law and reward them with amnesty while makeing people who follow the rules and become citizens legally go through procedural hell for several years.

just because it's a law doesn't make it right. they should not be blindly followed and upheld merely because they're law.

and it's the "procedural hell" that's in the wrong, i feel.

This data needs to be put into context, I think.

Nevada has one of the higher drop out rates in the country. Some of it is due to the school system, some of it is due to the fact that there's decent paying jobs out there that don't require a college or even high school diploma. In other words, drop out of high school and you can still become a cocktail waitress (once you're 21), a dancer, a waiter (at the right places a waiter can carry a mortgage), a dealer, a valet... Also consider that the numbers might not be for RECENT high school drop outs.

Money is inflated in most of the state of California (outside of the rural areas). Payscales are higher there. Homes tend to be one million plus. A dollar isn't worth a dollar there. So the two states at the top of that list have explanations.

So you always drive under the speed limit, then?