NEWS: US Builds A Retarded “Fence”

Fucking Bush, man. I'd abstain from voting completely, but it would be like going in and voting for one of the dickheads anyway. Besides, if I don't vote, I don't feel I have the right to bitch.

Either way, bottom line, the fence idea is, at best, dippy, no matter what your stance on immigration, legal or illegal, might be. Especially the way they're going about it.

Yup.

Give a bum a dollar it'll encourage him to keep begging. Employ and pay illegals they will keep coming. So, mow your own damn lawns you fat lazy Americans.

Its good that the economy is going down the crapper. Maybe now people will stop blowing their money on pedicured lawns. We'll finally save our water resources and our health care system!

Nice way to blame the people who are dying in the desert while trying to keep their family from starving to death. And you're so right. Our economy is in the crapper because there is an available workforce, willing to be paid less than minimum wage. We'll be much better off with $10 heads of cabbage, $20 gallons of O.J, and $15 Big Macs.

Have you heard of economics?

Oh, and of course it is the fault of day laborers that our water is being wasted. It has nothing to do with industrial waste. And the problems in our health care system will automatically be solved if we make the dying people prove their citizenship before they are let in the E.R.

Yeah, I mean, why should those greedy landscapers or other home service providers have jobs anyway? Parasites. It's not people like that have families to feed or anything. There's not any real Americans doing that type of work at all anyway.

this is just lovely! and yes it is a retarded fence

The "fence" is a smoke screen. There is NO political entity in the US that wants to stop illegal immigration. The right wants cheap labor and the left wants more poor people, who will then need more government services.

There are two different issues at play here. One is border security, which right now doesn't exist. Anyone could come into the country from Mexico. The Mexican government will even help you. I can't bring a bottle of water into an airport, but I could drive a truck loaded with guns and drugs over the southern border, and get the Mexican army to help.

The other issue is what to do with all the people who are already here. We're not going to deport them. We should get them on a fast track to citizenship, providing that we can slow the influx of more illegal immigrants.

And yes, the Mexican government is being very hypocritical on the issue, because they abuse immigrants from Guatemala and El Salvador.

How about a much shorter fence? and put it around, say D.C.?
Walls and fences stand for a lot of things- for instance the Berlin Wall? That worked out well for everyone, right? And that's the sort of image we want associated with our country
Oh, wait, thanks to the Bush Administration, we are an international joke already....
And of course its not a fence that is continuous- it starts and stops, and apparently isn't even on the border itself? (can I see some ID for walking from this piece of
US soil to that piece son?)
I keep hoping I'll wake up from this nightmare soon...
P.S. Anyone read about the virtual fence in part of Arizona that will employ optical sensors that can distinguish cattle from people or vehicles?
A:Cattle have more rights than people?
B: wouldn't barbed wire be cheaper
C: Won't the Americans dying of embarrassment from being parts of this country just get cow suits and escape to Mexico anyhow?
P.P.S. Doing something stupid- typical government-Doing something just asinine that screws over poor people- Bush administration

I take it your main source of information is called Lou Dobbs. There are multiple check points on the road to the Mexico-U.S. border and then there's the toll bridges where your vehicle has to be inspected by the Border Patrol and they check for papers and other stuff. To get a truck loaded with weapons across the border would require assistance on both sides too.

I'd like to know where you heard our government helps anyone smuggle goods or people across the border too, because in my experience, this is not true, and moreover, two paragraphs after you accuse our Government of "helping anyone come into the country" from here, you mention the abuse of other immigrants once they enter our territory, which takes place when they're stopped on their way to the U.S., and once again, as I said on a previous post, this happens mostly on a local level, so it's not "The Mexican Government" as much as the local authorithes, which are different in each state, just like yours.

Furthermore, the said hipocrisy can be argued against, because the federal Government has admitted these abuses before the UN (article in spanish), in a report submitted by our Government to the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, which comprises a study on the subject for the past 10 years.

Such smuggling clearly occurs along the border between New Jersey and Mexico.

thank you for this!

With all this in mind, along with the overall erosion of civil rights in this country, a lingering question haunts me...

Is this fence meant to keep them out, or us in?

I think's it's mainly meant as a fuckload of pork.

i think it's a ploy to make us believe that Bush is actually doing something about immigration, just masked as a retarded fence.

will it be a pretty fence? or just that chainlink stuff? I vote for a nice wooden privacy fence, something in a durable oak, or pine, that can be stained so it will fit in with the landscape. Then we can plant flowers along our side of it, maybe so we can forget that we have an immigration problem.

OoOh! and an immigration "pond" every so often to go with the wooden privacy alien fence, with some loverly waterfalls, and koi!!

Even the mildest efforts towards enforcement of existing laws has seen a marked exodus of illegals from Arizona. If that same enforcement nationwide coupled with active restriction of illegal border crossing would happen, the illegals problem could almost painlesslessly happen.

That is all that we are asking. The law be enforced, and sovereign borders be respected.

I'm sorry. David Sams has bought up all the crocodiles.

Yes, but the question remains as to whether or not this specific policy is the appropriate (or best) means of respecting sovereign borders. Moreover, even if building a wall was the best means of achieving our goals, the question remains as to whether our plan for building a wall is reasonable in the specifics (no holes at the land of rich Americans, wide enough to be effective, etc.). Seizing land from American citizens, for instance, to build the wall seems like a pretty noticeable flaw in the conception of the wall.

Plus, we don't want to suggest that a wall is an acceptable idea simply on the basis that the goals behind it are noble.

no, really? you think?

anyone mention the snazzy "virtual" section of said retardo fence?

note the author failed to mention how hundreds will be losing large portions of their land.

Also..Im sure someone mentioend this already...but "a mile *north* of the border"?? So the US of A is giving land to Mexico? That seems a bit weird.But maybe it's cause they feel bad for invading and taking so much of it away in the 19th century..

Are you saying Chainlink is not pretty ?

No, but listening to people make native americans out to have been "pure as the wind driven snow" until WE showed up and started massacring them is highly, factually incorrect.

Who in the fuck grew up saying or thinking that Natives flew around America on pink unicorns living off of sunshine and rainbows before we got here?

Not familiar with the site. Googled immigration, read the article, wasnt racist, sooo.. I used it. Typical "criticize the messenger, ignore the message" bs.

No, it's typical "messenger doesn't know wtf he's talking about so he post the first thing that google barfs up to him".