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Archaneus

Archaneus

Kalamazoo, MI
October 2006

DEC 03, 2007 06:29 PM

Imagician said:
First of all, yep, cool story.

Second of all, that video makes me want to punch that guy. For one thing, the shark is a black-tip reef shark... they're about as dangerous as a poodle. I'd like to see him try it on this:.
For another, sharks need to have a constant flow of water across their gills to breathe so in effect, what he's doing to that shark is the equivalent of throwing sand in someone's eyes and then drowning them. Wow, I wish I could be as cool as that guy...



I'm not sure if it was this guy or another, but there was a documentary they showed during shark week on discovery channel made where a guy did put a great white shark, a bull shark, and several other species into a trance. I can't think of the term for it, but it's something having to do with shark anatomy that causes them to fall into a euphoric and trusting state. It's not the guy throwing sand in their eyes and drowning them, it's basically him drugging them with his rubbing.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

DEC 03, 2007 07:18 PM

magpieboy said:

scylis said:

magpieboy said:

scotts0 said:
yeah, a sharks nose is nothing but nerves so if you just touch a sharks nose it practically paralyzes them for a moment and they lose track of what they were doing.

and, the mythbusters proved this theory recently. they built a lifesize dolphin went to south africa, put a fake seal in the water and a great white attacked it. moments later they put the seal back in the water with the robotic dolphin around the seal. the shark cautiously swam near the seal and dolphin and then jetted away never to be seen again.



If it was really robotic, I call bullshit. Sharks are extremely sensitive to electromagnetic fields, and any robot would have been emitting enough to make it entirely unlike a real dolphin, and perhaps enough to make it annoy a shark. Sorry.



yet they go right up to things with big fuck-off motors, divers carrying wonderfully complex cameras, mini submersibles, and a whole plethora of things that'd put out way more powerful electromagnetic fields if there's a big, tasty fish in it for them, but something shaped like a dolphin with small servos scared it the fuck off.

they might have special organs capable of sensing the electromagnetic fields animals give off, but it's not some super sensor devise. in fact, once they get close in, great whites rely primarily on sight. honestly, if they're unable to tell that the wooden board shaped like a seal actually isn't a seal with those electromagnetic field-sensing organs, the chance that the fields put off by the servos in Buster's dolphin friend are going to scare it away is unbelievably, astronomically tiny.



Point well made. But yet, bad science.



if by "bad" you mean "practical" and "using assumptions based off of years and years of empirical evidence," then yes.

science isn't perfect, but i'm going to have to side with the Mythbuster crew and say they did a really good short-term experiment/study. given everything we know about the South African great whites and their habits, they went about it in a really well thought-out manner. short of actually putting a dolphin in harm's way, there's not a whole lot more that can be done to try to prove what records of actual dolphin and shark interaction point to being the case.

ShadowDrgn

ShadowDrgn

Boca Raton, FL
August 2006

DEC 03, 2007 10:52 PM

As for why they do it.... you do know dolphins are near or AS intelligent as humans right, and well my belief as well as many others and maybe not 100% proven, is they are not protecting us because were some random creature they are protecting but an intelligent species like themselves and that they are aware of this.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

DEC 04, 2007 12:11 AM

ShadowDrgn said:
As for why they do it.... you do know dolphins are near or AS intelligent as humans right, and well my belief as well as many others and maybe not 100% proven, is they are not protecting us because were some random creature they are protecting but an intelligent species like themselves and that they are aware of this.



they're also aware we have tuna fishing vessels. and that being cute and helpful works out for the best.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

DEC 04, 2007 01:21 AM

Archaneus said:

Imagician said:
First of all, yep, cool story.

Second of all, that video makes me want to punch that guy. For one thing, the shark is a black-tip reef shark... they're about as dangerous as a poodle. I'd like to see him try it on this:.
For another, sharks need to have a constant flow of water across their gills to breathe so in effect, what he's doing to that shark is the equivalent of throwing sand in someone's eyes and then drowning them. Wow, I wish I could be as cool as that guy...



I'm not sure if it was this guy or another, but there was a documentary they showed during shark week on discovery channel made where a guy did put a great white shark, a bull shark, and several other species into a trance. I can't think of the term for it, but it's something having to do with shark anatomy that causes them to fall into a euphoric and trusting state. It's not the guy throwing sand in their eyes and drowning them, it's basically him drugging them with his rubbing.

WHAT?!? No Master Baiter jokes???

Elichrusos

Elichrusos

I'm lost
October 2007

DEC 04, 2007 01:53 AM

Mankarlen said:
Well Hichikers Guide to the Galaxy states that they are really a alien race living among us. We just don't listen when they speak. What's next a galactic freeway through the neighbor hood, hmmmm? biggrin



I don't remember anything about them being aliens. confused

The mice were aliens, the dolphins just hung around in the water having a good time.

lunchbox

lunchbox

Richmond, MA
March 2005

DEC 04, 2007 09:23 AM

Dolphins worry me. They're just a little too smart. I think that the cuteness and saving drowning, shark bitten swimmers is merely an elaborate ruse to lure us into a false sense of security. Once the oceans rise and they're in our backyards, look out. They're sneaky...dolphin sneaky. When the dolphin reign of terror begins don't say that you weren't warned.

eeek

Dizzy

Dizzy

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

DEC 04, 2007 11:02 AM

lunchbox said:
Dolphins worry me. They're just a little too smart. I think that the cuteness and saving drowning, shark bitten swimmers is merely an elaborate ruse to lure us into a false sense of security. Once the oceans rise and they're in our backyards, look out. They're sneaky...dolphin sneaky. When the dolphin reign of terror begins don't say that you weren't warned.

eeek



Aeryka

Aeryka

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 04, 2007 11:13 AM

juggling sharks eh?

Mark_plus_Beer

Mark_plus_Beer

United Kingdom
August 2005

DEC 04, 2007 12:34 PM

Wheezy_E said:

A man who caught a four-foot shark with his bare hands off an Australian beach today said he only did it because he was drunk on vodka.



my hero !!

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

DEC 04, 2007 03:51 PM

Rapid_Fire said:
They actually tested this on Mythbusters a few weeks ago and got similar results. They built a replica dolphin, and the sharks (great whites) stayed away from the bait while it was out.



Remind me not to go surfing without my pack of robotic dolphins.

Amaia

Amaia

HOPEFUL

Lethbridge, AB

DEC 04, 2007 05:56 PM

Sharks and Dolphins really are interesting creatures I'm kind of odd tho I was the little girl that got seriously upset when Jaws was blown up with compressed air. I still often mutter to my boyfriend "we're going to need a bigger boat".Dolphins are also the only mammals besides humans that have sex for fun but I'm sure you guys knew that :p.

handsome_rob

handsome_rob

Burlington, IA
May 2004

DEC 04, 2007 08:01 PM

i remember reading a few stories about people who were attacked by sharks and rescued when a pack of dolphins all rammed the shark's head and sides (and presumably nose) with their noses. most sharks have cartilage but no bone, so their internal organs aren't well protected from such attacks.

meatpieboy

meatpieboy

Korea, D.P.R.
June 2004

DEC 04, 2007 10:33 PM

Amaia said:
Sharks and Dolphins really are interesting creatures I'm kind of odd tho I was the little girl that got seriously upset when Jaws was blown up with compressed air. I still often mutter to my boyfriend "we're going to need a bigger boat".Dolphins are also the only mammals besides humans that have sex for fun but I'm sure you guys knew that :p.



Bonobos.

Rapid_Fire

Rapid_Fire

Saskatoon, SK
July 2007

DEC 05, 2007 06:01 PM

Lemonkid said:

Rapid_Fire said:
They actually tested this on Mythbusters a few weeks ago and got similar results. They built a replica dolphin, and the sharks (great whites) stayed away from the bait while it was out.



Remind me not to go surfing without my pack of robotic dolphins.



I never go anywhere without my pack of robotic dolphins.

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

DEC 06, 2007 12:56 AM

Rapid_Fire said:

Lemonkid said:

Rapid_Fire said:
They actually tested this on Mythbusters a few weeks ago and got similar results. They built a replica dolphin, and the sharks (great whites) stayed away from the bait while it was out.



Remind me not to go surfing without my pack of robotic dolphins.



I never go anywhere without my pack of robotic dolphins.



I bought a kingsized 20 pack today, coincidentally.

They asked if I had any fisherman's permits... To which I replied "GyaaaaRRRR".

I smoked half the pack already.

I think it's to try the patch or the chewing-chum...

(Oh man... I'll go off myself now. Hehehe.)

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

DEC 06, 2007 02:27 AM

magpieboy said:

Amaia said:
Sharks and Dolphins really are interesting creatures I'm kind of odd tho I was the little girl that got seriously upset when Jaws was blown up with compressed air. I still often mutter to my boyfriend "we're going to need a bigger boat".Dolphins are also the only mammals besides humans that have sex for fun but I'm sure you guys knew that :p.



Bonobos.



I was going to say that. Bonobos are crazy, crazy sex freaks.

soulcompromise

soulcompromise

I'm lost
November 2006

DEC 06, 2007 02:44 AM

I seem to remember that the dolphin would not only guard the human but that it would attack the shark to protect him/her. That could have just been on an old episode of flipper or something so there might not be any turth to it. I'm not sure if it's all breeds of dolphins that do that or if it's only the bottlenosed dolphins. I saw that guy telling his story on the news and he seemed really shaken up by it but I guess he went out surfing as soon as he could.

lefthandright

lefthandright

New Zealand
September 2006

DEC 06, 2007 04:16 AM

...i hate to burst the bubble here...bring up Google...enter search "humans attack by dolphins."

They are naturally curious and will often take interest in humans...however you shouldn't mistake the point..an attacked animal loses blood, the more blood in the water, the more predators come scavenging...nothing ruins your day more as a dolphin when a school of rogue sharks decides to go into a feeding frenzy.

Also at sea dolphins will sometimes also attack whales...why they do this is not known. Essentially they are like anything else,..they have days were they get steamed easily..and others where they feel charitable.

Other interesting facts..most male dolphins are gay. They come in shore during breeding and after copulation they return to their male partner. They also choose male partners for life. They also after being in a gay relationship for many years will invite our gay partnerships into their own. If their partner ever dies, they return to the bachelor pool, they never interfere with an existing relationship.

It may sound far fetched, ..but it is true. They also show a particular affinity to pregnant women, because they navigate by sonar they can easily detect the small child inside...although science cannot prove it, they seem to revere pregnancy..they come close to pregnant women, but they dont touch..nor do they let others get close to her, they body block others from her when in the water.

lefthandright

lefthandright

New Zealand
September 2006

DEC 06, 2007 04:23 AM

joker_ said:

magpieboy said:

Amaia said:
Sharks and Dolphins really are interesting creatures I'm kind of odd tho I was the little girl that got seriously upset when Jaws was blown up with compressed air. I still often mutter to my boyfriend "we're going to need a bigger boat".Dolphins are also the only mammals besides humans that have sex for fun but I'm sure you guys knew that :p.



Bonobos.



I was going to say that. Bonobos are crazy, crazy sex freaks.



bonobos monkeys don't have sex for pleasure, they use it has a method of establishing hierarchy and diffusing aggression.

females gazelles also have gay sex for pleasure.
many higher primates masturbate for pleasure.
Rats also have sex for pleasure, they don't have unwanted pregnancy. Female rats can selectively store sperm for up to year internally. The female can have numerous sexual partners and store the sperm..when she finally has a sample she is pleased with she can then choose when she wants to in pregnant herself and discard all the rest.

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For human sexual practices, see Human sexual behavior

Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. Researchers have observed monogamy, promiscuity, sex between species, sexual arousal from objects or places, sex apparently via duress or coercion, copulation with dead animals, homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual sexual behaviour, and situational sexual behaviour and a range of other practices among animals other than humans. Related studies have noted diversity in sexed bodies and gendered behaviour, such as intersex and transgender animals.

The study of animal sexuality (and primate sexuality especially) is a rapidly developing field. It used to be believed that only humans and a handful of species performed sexual acts other than for procreation, and that animals' sexuality was instinctive and a simple response to the "right" stimulation (sight, scent). Current understanding is that many species believed monogamous have now been proven to be promiscuous or opportunistic in nature, a wide range of species appear both to masturbate and to use objects as tools to help them do so, in many species animals try to give and get sexual stimulation with others where procreation is not the aim, and homosexual behavior has now been observed among 1,500 species, and in 500 of those it is well documented.[1]-wikipedia

lefthandright

lefthandright

New Zealand
September 2006

DEC 06, 2007 04:30 AM

Imagician said:
First of all, yep, cool story.

Second of all, that video makes me want to punch that guy. For one thing, the shark is a black-tip reef shark... they're about as dangerous as a poodle. I'd like to see him try it on this:.
For another, sharks need to have a constant flow of water across their gills to breathe so in effect, what he's doing to that shark is the equivalent of throwing sand in someone's eyes and then drowning them. Wow, I wish I could be as cool as that guy...



humans need a constant flow for air through their lungs..if they hold their breathe for one minute they will surely die..you are correct that if the shark was held in this position for a prolong period of time it would die, however the time frame he does is not dangerous. However the blue fin tuna does need 2 cubic meters of water every second to pass through its gills, if he was to do this technique with one of them, it would in fact drown.

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