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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 29, 2007 07:23 AM

Cremon said:
What's next - suspending attorney-client privileges?

Give me a BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you're in Gitmo, you've already had it suspended. Yay!

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

NOV 29, 2007 08:42 AM

Oh, no! They'll find my scorpion farm! Then where will my scorpions live?!?

(1,000 points to whoever first gets the reference)

-TM

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

NOV 29, 2007 08:48 AM

thefreak said:
Oh, no! They'll find my scorpion farm! Then where will my scorpions live?!?

(1,000 points to whoever first gets the reference)

-TM



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ColdMitts

ColdMitts

Reno, NV
March 2007

NOV 29, 2007 04:17 PM

Someone might have asked this, but im too sleepy and lazy to look. But are they allowed to look through drawers and check inside books and go on your computers, all those warrant-necessary things? or do they just scope out all the things they can see by just being there, guns laying out, etc?

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

NOV 29, 2007 06:09 PM

ColdMitts said:
Someone might have asked this, but im too sleepy and lazy to look. But are they allowed to look through drawers and check inside books and go on your computers, all those warrant-necessary things? or do they just scope out all the things they can see by just being there, guns laying out, etc?



Police are not allowed to do these things without a warrant. If a firefighter were to enter a home to put out a fire or something, I would guess (and I think this is a pretty strong guess) that he would be limited to reporting what was in plain view. There would be no valid reason within the scope of their employment (that I could think of) for a firefighter to go rifling through peoples' drawers or computers. If they did something like that, they would essentially be acting as an agent of the police and they would be beholden to the same rules as a police officer.

In other words, I think you're safe if you put your pot in your dresser. Assuming it isn't still burning, that is.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

NOV 30, 2007 07:45 AM

oyaji said:
Tools can be inherently dangerous. Fuck, step ladders and buckets come with "DANGER!" warning labels. Why is it so hard to understand that guns are, in fact, dangerous. That doesn't make them "bad." But they are fucking dangerous. Jesus.

The way we fight back against our government in this society is through the democratic electoral process and the courts. The second amendment was never meant to protect us against OUR government.



...that's why I was asking them. Although my personal beliefs would never lead me to actual fighting back against agents of the US government, it wouldn't matter. I'm not trained and I don't have any firearms. But there are users on this site whose personal beliefs may lead to them fighting back against agents of the government, and who are trained in the use of firearms. I was merely curious as to what the more reasonable gun-owners/libertarians on these boards think is the break-point, not wondering when I should get out into the street and start taking down pigs.

As to the other point, I don't understand why people have such huge blind spots about guns being dangerous either.

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