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Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

NOV 03, 2007 01:55 AM

Asia8989 said:
Romero has good ideas, but his characters make his movies shit.



...and with these few words, in all other dimensions parallel to this one, infinity-minus-one versions of me have declared nerd-jhad on infinity-minus-one versions of you. I am the most reasonable one.

It is not Romero's characters that are at fault. I mean, look at "Knightriders." No, seriously, do. It's friggin' hysterical. Ed Harris plays a guy in the late '60s who does jousting on motorcycle and actually thinks he is King Arthur. He flips out and yells about a dragon. This movie is awesome. Also, for most of the ladies and some of the fellas: Tom Savini is featured extensively in this film oiled up and wearing only a black bikini. He also fucking moto-jousts.

So, obviously, the problem lies elsewhere... Oh, wait, I think I know. What are those things that come out of characters' mouths? Words! I knew I could remember. I am afraid to say that most of Romero's movie scripts have a high percentage of crappiness. However, the parts of the script in the minority are amazing and have actually re-shaped geek culture on a couple of occasions, and because the characters that deliver the lines are so realistic and typically well-developed, the rest of the lines (*koff* "Real brothers or street brothers?" sez white gurl *koff*) can sort of be forgiven.

Plus Tom Savini saying "You just fucked up real bad, we don' like people that don' share!" is creepy and terrifying every single time I watch that film. Major props for that, and his role there was arguably not even a character.

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 03, 2007 02:43 AM

Asia8989 said:
Romero has good ideas, but his characters make his movies shit.


Kind of like Lucas, except for the good part.

Ditto on the dialogue part for both.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

NOV 03, 2007 02:54 AM

Lotta rumblin' across the multiverse tonight...

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 03, 2007 03:11 AM

Toku666 said:
Lotta rumblin' across the multiverse tonight...


Do you mean MMOG's? I will extend a pardon of coolness towards Lucasarts, not to be confused at all with that giant lackluster that is Lucasfilm.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

NOV 03, 2007 03:17 AM

FellOnEarth said:

Toku666 said:
Lotta rumblin' across the multiverse tonight...


Do you mean MMOG's? I will extend a pardon of coolness towards Lucasarts, not to be confused at all with that giant lackluster that is Lucasfilm.



Lucas blows. The extra-dimensional versions of me were getting feisty about your Romero heresy.

*WINK*WINK*

FellOnEarth

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA
April 2006

NOV 03, 2007 03:33 AM

Toku666 said:

FellOnEarth said:

Toku666 said:
Lotta rumblin' across the multiverse tonight...


Do you mean MMOG's? I will extend a pardon of coolness towards Lucasarts, not to be confused at all with that giant lackluster that is Lucasfilm.



Lucas blows. The extra-dimensional versions of me were getting feisty about your Romero heresy.

*WINK*WINK*

Ooooooooooooh! [smacks forehead] It was just a comment to snipe at Lucas more than anything. I think of Romero like I think of Carpenter, both have done good, bad and ugly. It's Hollywood and it comes with the territory.

I enjoy watching zombies get hacked, chainsawed, drilled, lawn mowered, skewered, cooked, electrocuted, or just good old blown away. I doesn't matter who is directing. For the record though, I still think the original Night of the Living Dead is one the best, but I like the "zombies" in 28 days better. They were so much more menacing.

Jennifer_

Jennifer_

Venezuela
November 2006

NOV 03, 2007 04:25 AM

attn_ho said:
i like shaun of the dead. its great, its hilarious. i like it more than some zombie movies. thats because i like comedies more than zombie movies. being geared towards my tastes does not make it a better zombie movie than romero's ground breaking work. even simon pegg would say so.


SotD was a comedy movie and a zombie movie, and it did both well. It did take a much, much more lighthearted look at the genre - but it's worth remembering that it still really delivered on some of the best aspects of that genre (with a great political subtext and some genuinely tense moments).

I can see why people would say the originator of the genre is the best, but personally I don't mind subsequent films take have taken up the melody, added new things and done a good job of it.

DotD and 28 Days (and Weeks) Later are great films, so is SotD, decide which you like best for yourself. But personally, I'm going to have to represent for the Pegg. Even if he prefers DotD to SotD, my personal zombie-film ranking still has to be:
Shaun of the Dead
28 Days Later
Dawn of the Dead
28 Weeks Later

If you've got a different ranking, alright, don't get your knickers in a twist.

Necrosis

Necrosis

Australia
January 2006

NOV 03, 2007 05:31 AM

Save some brains for me Flux! skull

ki1

ki1

Ireland
September 2007

NOV 03, 2007 06:56 AM

Jennifer_ said:

attn_ho said:
i like shaun of the dead. its great, its hilarious. i like it more than some zombie movies. thats because i like comedies more than zombie movies. being geared towards my tastes does not make it a better zombie movie than romero's ground breaking work. even simon pegg would say so.


SotD was a comedy movie and a zombie movie, and it did both well. It did take a much, much more lighthearted look at the genre - but it's worth remembering that it still really delivered on some of the best aspects of that genre (with a great political subtext and some genuinely tense moments).

I can see why people would say the originator of the genre is the best, but personally I don't mind subsequent films take have taken up the melody, added new things and done a good job of it.

DotD and 28 Days (and Weeks) Later are great films, so is SotD, decide which you like best for yourself. But personally, I'm going to have to represent for the Pegg. Even if he prefers DotD to SotD, my personal zombie-film ranking still has to be:
Shaun of the Dead
28 Days Later
Dawn of the Dead
28 Weeks Later

If you've got a different ranking, alright, don't get your knickers in a twist.



++1 smile

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

NOV 03, 2007 11:13 PM

Jennifer_ said:

attn_ho said:
i like shaun of the dead. its great, its hilarious. i like it more than some zombie movies. thats because i like comedies more than zombie movies. being geared towards my tastes does not make it a better zombie movie than romero's ground breaking work. even simon pegg would say so.


SotD was a comedy movie and a zombie movie, and it did both well. It did take a much, much more lighthearted look at the genre - but it's worth remembering that it still really delivered on some of the best aspects of that genre (with a great political subtext and some genuinely tense moments).

I can see why people would say the originator of the genre is the best, but personally I don't mind subsequent films take have taken up the melody, added new things and done a good job of it.

DotD and 28 Days (and Weeks) Later are great films, so is SotD, decide which you like best for yourself. But personally, I'm going to have to represent for the Pegg. Even if he prefers DotD to SotD, my personal zombie-film ranking still has to be:
Shaun of the Dead
28 Days Later
Dawn of the Dead
28 Weeks Later

If you've got a different ranking, alright, don't get your knickers in a twist.


i dont see night of the comet on that list. definitly a failing.

Jennifer_

Jennifer_

Venezuela
November 2006

NOV 04, 2007 03:24 AM

attn_ho said:
i dont see night of the comet on that list. definitly a failing.


Hey, that's just a 'top 4' list. It has some stiff competition! If I make a top 10 or (maybe) top 5 list, I'll try to find a place for it.

Jennifer_

Jennifer_

Venezuela
November 2006

NOV 04, 2007 05:01 AM

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