NEWS: The Democratic Debate And The Slow Motion Car Crash

Hmm, perhaps you could compensate by legalizing something else instead of gambling... I guarantee that Ohio's problems would be over quickly, one way or another. (Then again you'd have a whole other nut to crack, namely Federal prohibition statutes.)

On that note, I hear that California's #1 cash crop isn't exactly legal, but it sure is tender.

Yeah, Ohio division of NORML is pretty big. It has held Hempfest smack dab in the middle of the OSU campus for the better part of two decades now. Sadly, we've only just now gotten into the third year of freedom from a Republican vise grip on our state politics, and it's slow goin' with such things when you've got people voting for a fucking law that makes titty clubs close at midnight and institute a 6-foot zone. I'm not a huge fan of what these clubs represent, and will only ever give custom to the wonderful Zanzibar of Toronto, ON for the remainder of my life, but that's all beside the point. There's no reason such things should be legal limitations of businesses of that type.

"HMMM, how is this "thread"?"

Oh, okay:

"Hey Democratic candidates:

Please free me and all of my brothers and sisters from ideological slavery. Please return us to a country where at least lip service is paid to all being equal, as opposed to a land where the President himself declares atheists to be un-American because of lack of adherence to a McCarthy era change to the Pledge of Allegiance, which was originally nothing more than copy from advertisements for a flag-making company.

Video games, weed, and stupid movies aren't going to do nearly as much damage to us as the ransom of our children into the pockets of men furnishing their golden parachutes that give out sloppy blowjobs.

Please please stop talking about attacking Iran.

Amen, or, wait fuck--"

Amen. Goodnight and good luck. I'm turning in, I've got to work at 9:00 AM and I've been up till dawn the last two days... I'm turning into an SG zombie & I need to stop.

The funny thing is he oversees different construction crews for a contracting company that he will either one day have part ownership in or he will start his own. I just told him to wait till he has his own company he'll realize how directly local and federal laws affect what and how he can do what he has to do. He told me he still won't vote which I don't buy. I mean shit, my dad is an educator/researcher and I'd always consult him about certain position that were up on the ballot. I mean, there were certain people who if got elected would have effected his ability to obtain funds and perform certain research. It's just so obvious to me that voting matters, but I'm preaching to the choir.

And yeah, I'd concede that his intelligence is a bit myopic. There was resistance to the idea that I couldn't put my finger on. Perhaps it's just apathy. But when I said intelligent he is generally thoughtful and can discuss nuanced positions beyond just the black and the white.

Personally, I think the lottery is a bad idea. People would be voting for the wrong reasons, and I believe the percentage of uninformed electorate would gradually increase. I think giving people the day off is a good idea though. I think a lot of people who would like to vote but put their job above voting would be given the opportunity.

Detroit's like what two and a half hours away? And they have three big Casinos, and then Windsor is just across the river. That's four cool casinos just a couple hours away.

He's still pretty young. Hopefully he'll come around, and you can be sure I'm going to try and help quicken that process.

Thanks, I'll need it.

I still think you under estimate how many left leaning people who dislike Hillary Clinton, not because of her specific point on some political spectrum, but because of the type of slimy wishy washy politician she is. She is not just the definition of an opportunist, it's like she read the definition and decided she could do it one better. It appears as if she has engineered her entire life, both private and public, not for profit, not personal empowerment, not pubic service or representation, but entirely for political advancement.
She is not just a political animal, she is alarmingly close to politics incarnate.

There's a dozen casinos within one to two to three hours of me. The point is that the religious zealots think that gambling is hell on earth. That's money just walking out of Ohio. Rather than spend the cash in Ohio, they drive two to three hours to get to a casino and spend money there.

Bus trips around here are a dime a dozen, that is flocks of money leaving the state of Ohio to never return, because no one comes to Ohio. Around here we have perfect places like the Cuyahoga River for Casinos, but once again, the religious zealots fear that people with "gambling addictions" will threaten the welfare of the state.

The same religious reich thinks that they need to keep me safe from the soul sucking stripper.

Columbus is the only city prospering in Ohio, Cinci is dieing, Cleveland and Akron are dieing, and Strickland has his hands full trying to fix things. It's just not a good state to be in right now.

Thank you. FTR, did you watch one single debate in the 2004 election cycle at all? What the hell are you talking about? Kerry clearly stomped Bush in both the first and the third debates, and he didn't lose the second one either.

I know people are all into that after-the-fact, "told you so"- style hating on Senator Kerry and Al Gore and anyone else who's ever lost an election in the history of democratic political systems, but you ought at least to try to sound like you know what you're talking about while spewing that.

Please substantiate any of those statements you just made, in any way--particularly that last one.

Go.

Likability has little to do with "trouncing." Did he on knowledge? Yes. Could John Kerry say a sentence without rambling on for hours? No. Boring your audience to death is not a quality debating strategy.

Remember all those crisp, nice sound bites out of Kerry? Yeah, neither do I. I guess that is why the Daily Show continued to show him babbling on and on every night of the campaign, unable to make a quick concise point, because he was an awesome speker. Don't pull this "I told you so" shit out, when I watched Jon Stewart slam his head into his desk night after night as he felt the same way many of us did. If you don't see the same thing with Hillary, good luck to you.

Why don't you go read up on the DLC and get back to us.