I think that's the type of thing that suggests outside interference with someones personal freedom. I miss the days when someones sexual orientation was a thing shrouded in mystery.
I think even more importantly, if they prove homosexuality IS genetic then they may also be able to prove that pedeophelia is genetic and erase that shit from the human gene pool. Maybe the catholic church will fund the research...
Imagician said:
I think even more importantly, if they prove homosexuality IS genetic then they may also be able to prove that pedeophelia is genetic and erase that shit from the human gene pool. Maybe the catholic church will fund the research...
At the very least, they could provide a plethora of test subjects.
FearTheReaper said:
Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but how does this enable me to fuck worms?
Dude. What's stopping you?
Considering the size of most worms' orifices, that'd say something, uh...uncomplimentary about the size of one's dick. Either that or one is also a necrophiliac.
The 'lesbian life partner' comment was meant as a joke. Of all the women I know, she's the one that most makes me wish I was gay. You know when you see someone, and you think 'man I wish I was gay so I could civil partnership with you'?
Maybe that's just me, but I am so calling her when they figure out how to make this work for humans. A few months back she showed me a NuSci article on how they thought they could make people get teh gay, and we both got very excited. (but not in that way. Yet)
Evilgasm said:
More realistically, and importantly, it will prove definativly that sexual orientation is something you are born with and therefore have no control over. This means that any discrimination against homosexuals will become instantly illegal just about everywhere and in every form. A major boost for the promotion of gay rights as it gives a scientific and legal basis from which to build on (not just a moral one).
I'm not so sure. Just last week the Prime Minister of Singapore stood up in Parliament and declared that homosexuality was inborn - and then proceeded to support the retention of Section 377A of the Penal Code, on the grounds that repealing it would upset homophobes.
So yeah, I'm not so optimistic.
I Included that "just about" bit specifically thinking of Singapore... That country has some messed up laws concerning sex in all forms.
MarcMerm said:
I'm just removing the moral gray area from the argument by showing that in cases where we clearly know right from wrong we can agree, we shouldn't let other factors influence us in the gray areas.
I think the reason that homosexuality has become a gray area for some is because they allow other factors to influence them.
This discovery will not lead to instant change (hardly anything ever does). It will help however. Right now many people still see sexual orientation as a choice someone makes. With scientific evidence stating the opposite that argument can (under rational circumstances at least) be dismissed. Now by their nature homophobes are indeed irrational and stomping out that behavior is as difficult, if not impossible, as stomping out racism. I however do hold out the hope/belief that most civilized nations are rational in their courts of law. That homophobia will one day be treated with as much contempt and severity as any act of racism.
The 'lesbian life partner' comment was meant as a joke. Of all the women I know, she's the one that most makes me wish I was gay. You know when you see someone, and you think 'man I wish I was gay so I could civil partnership with you'?
Maybe that's just me, but I am so calling her when they figure out how to make this work for humans. A few months back she showed me a NuSci article on how they thought they could make people get teh gay, and we both got very excited. (but not in that way. Yet)
If you like this girl so much that you would like to be her lesbian love partner, thats gay.
TheFly said:
Uh, what worms are they using? If my science classes have stuck with me...
aren't worms asexual? Having both sex organs, hermaphrodites, that can fertilize their own eggs or cross fertalize.
How the fuck can this be linked to human "gayness?!" How can you fiddle in the brain of an organism that doesn't have a defined sex and make attracted to another non-defined sex organism?
The 'lesbian life partner' comment was meant as a joke. Of all the women I know, she's the one that most makes me wish I was gay. You know when you see someone, and you think 'man I wish I was gay so I could civil partnership with you'?
Maybe that's just me, but I am so calling her when they figure out how to make this work for humans. A few months back she showed me a NuSci article on how they thought they could make people get teh gay, and we both got very excited. (but not in that way. Yet)
Chainlink said:
If you like this girl so much that you would like to be her lesbian love partner, thats gay.
I like her personality, but not her booty. Not that there's anything objectionable about her booty, but it doesn't have that certain je ne sais quois that male booty has. But if I was gay, her booty would then have the je ne sais quois, which would make life more fun.
Surprisingly, this actually makes sense to us. And yes, its an unusual in-joke, but hey, we have fun with it.
But hasn't anyone ever wondered what it would be like to be attracted to another gender in a way that you aren't currently? Surely its not just me.
Chainlink said:
If you like this girl so much that you would like to be her lesbian love partner, thats gay.
I like her personality, but not her booty. Not that there's anything objectionable about her booty, but it doesn't have that certain je ne sais quois that male booty has. But if I was gay, her booty would then have the je ne sais quois, which would make life more fun.
Surprisingly, this actually makes sense to us. And yes, its an unusual in-joke, but hey, we have fun with it.
But hasn't anyone ever wondered what it would be like to be attracted to another gender in a way that you aren't currently? Surely its not just me.
It sounds to me like you are as confused about your sexuality as you are your politics.
Good luck with all of that.
Chainlink said:
It sounds to me like you are as confused about your sexuality as you are your politics.
I'm not particuarly confused about either. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean the other person is confused or inventing it.
Though it is amazing you can't understand why a straight person would wish they could be bisexual so they could have new experiences. I tried to be polite in my last post, but really dude, its not that complicated.
Chainlink said:
It sounds to me like you are as confused about your sexuality as you are your politics.
I'm not particuarly confused about either. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean the other person is confused or inventing it.
Though it is amazing you can't understand why a straight person would wish they could be bisexual so they could have new experiences. I tried to be polite in my last post, but really dude, its not that complicated.
You don't have to be bisexual to try new experiences. You just try them. If you fuck a chick, I don't think the cops are going to bust in and arrest you for having gay sex without being the correct orientation.
Chainlink said:
If you like this girl so much that you would like to be her lesbian love partner, thats gay.
I like her personality, but not her booty. Not that there's anything objectionable about her booty, but it doesn't have that certain je ne sais quois that male booty has. But if I was gay, her booty would then have the je ne sais quois, which would make life more fun.
Surprisingly, this actually makes sense to us. And yes, its an unusual in-joke, but hey, we have fun with it.
But hasn't anyone ever wondered what it would be like to be attracted to another gender in a way that you aren't currently? Surely its not just me.
There needs to be more than one person involved for an inside joke to work.
soulcompromise said:
I think that's the type of thing that suggests outside interference with someones personal freedom. I miss the days when someones sexual orientation was a thing shrouded in mystery.
When they can test for homosexuality in the womb (or any other desireable/undesireable trait) they will, and mothers will decide what to do with the fetus at that time.
IIRC, they already can test for Cystic Fibrosis in the womb, and many women are already terminating pregnancies based on this.
Personally, i'm pro-genetic engineering. There is a lot of potential to make some positive change in the world
sex with worms = wow. my dick isn't huge, but it's WAY too big for that shit. and any references to turning the worms into paste is not only gross, its masturbation. not sex.
Jennifer = the girl was just trying to express a bit of sentiment. get over it and let her be.
the actual article = i'm not even gonna touch that in any kind of seriousness...
Chainlink said:
If you like this girl so much that you would like to be her lesbian love partner, thats gay.
I like her personality, but not her booty. Not that there's anything objectionable about her booty, but it doesn't have that certain je ne sais quois that male booty has. But if I was gay, her booty would then have the je ne sais quois, which would make life more fun.
Surprisingly, this actually makes sense to us. And yes, its an unusual in-joke, but hey, we have fun with it.
But hasn't anyone ever wondered what it would be like to be attracted to another gender in a way that you aren't currently? Surely its not just me.
Actually, I think I know exactly what you mean....
First of all, I'm fiercely appreciative of my sexuality, as I think most people are. But more precisely, I'm very aware that I would be missing out if I didn't appreciate the feminine form as I do. So aware, in fact, that I sometimes wonder what I'm missing out on.
I've often thought that were I lucky enough to have been born bisexual, I would appreciate both sexes more fully. And sometimes, I truly lament over my inability to admire men the way I do women.
It's not that I'm denying myself some deep, dark desire to kiss boys, it's simply acknowledging my own unfortunate limits.
soulcompromise said:
I think that's the type of thing that suggests outside interference with someones personal freedom. I miss the days when someones sexual orientation was a thing shrouded in mystery.
Don't Ask + Don't Tell = If you do tell, I will bash your head in?
Evilgasm said:
More realistically, and importantly, it will prove definativly that sexual orientation is something you are born with and therefore have no control over. This means that any discrimination against homosexuals will become instantly illegal just about everywhere and in every form. A major boost for the promotion of gay rights as it gives a scientific and legal basis from which to build on (not just a moral one).
I'm not so sure. Just last week the Prime Minister of Singapore stood up in Parliament and declared that homosexuality was inborn - and then proceeded to support the retention of Section 377A of the Penal Code, on the grounds that repealing it would upset homophobes.
So yeah, I'm not so optimistic.
I Included that "just about" bit specifically thinking of Singapore... That country has some messed up laws concerning sex in all forms.
Actually, excepting 377A, it doesn't particularly.
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November 2006
OCT 28, 2007 07:02 PM