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Elichrusos

I'm lost

October 2007

OCT 27, 2007 01:13 AM

BlackJaqSullivan said:
I fail to see the connection between having membership to a rather artfull pin-up/porn sight and my comments attacking the "Hey! It's not my fault I put my dick in her... repeatedly... over the course of several days/weeks/months/years! Fuck him for trying to fuck me for fucking his wife!" attitude expressed in some of the comments.

Your sanctimonius "moral decay of society" rhetoric is what I was getting at. And I'm not saying it's something that should be celebrated, I'm saying it's something that shouldn't be illegal.

And, yes, the laws are flawed in the way they are written. And while that could, arguably, lead one to believe that the laws should be invalidated -- it does not, in my opinion, invalidate the the idea of the principal for why the laws exist. That is just my opinion. I think there should be a legal recourse to take all parties involved in the dissolution of a marriage to task -- not just the offending spouse. If you're knowingly sleeping with another man's wife, and get her pregnant, and that leads to a divorce, I think you should bear some responsibility.

I disagree. First of all, you are bearing legal responsibility through your responsibility for the child. Secondly, I'm just not interested in legislating morality. It may be distasteful and unseemly, but the fact is that third person has no legal duty to you and no privity in the contract. Moreover, I'm of the opinion that people who cheat tend to do so because they are unhappy themselves. Why should the third party have to pay for the marital difficulties of the couple if those marital difficulties are what gave him the opportunity to interfere with the contract in the first place.

I love you so much I'm going to try to seduce your lady. You can sue me for a fortune.

FellOnEarth

Temecula, CA

April 2006

OCT 27, 2007 01:55 AM

Sheeit! I'm in the wrong business, anyone want to marry me (strictly for legal reasons). We could make a killing off of others by screwing them, twice! First, we get into their pants, next we get into their wallets! It's a win-win situation no matter what. Road to riches, here we cum!

Seriously though, WTF?

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA

July 2002

OCT 27, 2007 06:15 AM

Subrosa said:
It's a contract to "love" and that's not nearly as easily definable as a contract to buy 100 wigits is.

That sounds more like a good reason not to enter into it in the first place than a reason not to enforce it.

risus_sardonicus

I'm lost

August 2007

OCT 27, 2007 07:30 AM

BlackJaqSullivan said:
I'm pretty sure that if I was a company that colluded with another company to decieve and break the terms that company held under contract with a third company, that I could be sued for that. And, sadly, that is what state marriage is really about. We may like to believe otherwise, but...

Not true. Example: Let's say the company I work for wants to sell widgets to Company A. However, Company A has an exclusive contract written for Company B to sell them widgets. I, working for Company C, have convinced one of Company A's people to buy mine instead. Company A and Company B's contract is now void, yet in said contract there will be a way for Company A to buy its way out of the remainder of its term of said former contract. My company is not financially responsible for anything! Company A broke the deal, I may have proposed a better deal, that may or may not actually be better, that is for Company A to decide. And if Company A has obligations to some other party it is their decision to uphold those obligations or not.

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom

OLD SKOOL

OCT 27, 2007 08:00 AM

FellOnEarth said:
Sheeit! I'm in the wrong business, anyone want to marry me (strictly for legal reasons). We could make a killing off of others by screwing them, twice! First, we get into their pants, next we get into their wallets! It's a win-win situation no matter what. Road to riches, here we cum!

Seriously though, WTF?

Ha! You could as well! A sufficiently unscrupulous husband and wife could do just that. The wife could go out of her way to seduce some rich bloke and sleep with him simply so that the husband could sue him. The husband and wife could then share the revenue.

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom

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OCT 27, 2007 08:01 AM

apesamongus said:

Subrosa said:
It's a contract to "love" and that's not nearly as easily definable as a contract to buy 100 wigits is.

That sounds more like a good reason not to enter into it in the first place than a reason not to enforce it.

Interesting point. If the notion of a legally binding contract to love is not worth enforcing in law, then perhaps people should not be able to enter into such arrangements to begin with.

Waldo_Jeffers

United Kingdom

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OCT 27, 2007 08:05 AM

Question: Is gay marriage legal (or likely to ever become legal) in any of these states?

If so, I wonder how the courts / media would react a gay/lesbian attempted to sue following the infidelity of their spouse?

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

OCT 27, 2007 09:51 AM

mercurius said:
Question: Is gay marriage legal (or likely to ever become legal) in any of these states?

If so, I wonder how the courts / media would react a gay/lesbian attempted to sue following the infidelity of their spouse?

No.

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

OCT 27, 2007 09:53 AM

apesamongus said:

Subrosa said:
It's a contract to "love" and that's not nearly as easily definable as a contract to buy 100 wigits is.

That sounds more like a good reason not to enter into it in the first place than a reason not to enforce it.

OK. It's not that the contract isn't being enforced at all, it's that it's not being enforced against third parties.

CountVertigo

Ann Arbor, MI

June 2005

OCT 27, 2007 11:41 AM

Here's an obvious question: how many of these judges hearing this guy's case are men?

Necia

San Francisco, CA

August 2005

OCT 27, 2007 06:07 PM

Clidna said:

BlackJaqSullivan said:
Personally, I fail to see what is so wrong with these laws. A marriage is, to my understanding, a legal contract. And to knowingly and willfully violate, or be party to the act of violating, said contract should impose a legal punishment (and I would point out that commiting assault upon any party involved is not legal -- so I fail to see how the person who did not violate the contract commiting a crime that could well lead to his or her own punishment is somehow better). If that offends you, then, please, stay out of those states. If you get your kicks by sleeping with another person's spouse... stay out of those states. If you are unemotional, amoral, believe the whole of the universe exists purely for your own gratification, and don't have any interest in the well-being of your fellow man... then, please, continue contributing to the downfall of society.

We should paint a big scarlet A on her, or something.

Marriage isn't a contract, unless you have a pre-nup. What you sign is not a contract, it is a registration form that states someone who is legally entitled to do so, officiated over a marriage ceremony. It doesn't state what vows may have been spoken, what promises may have been made, etc. - that is all verbal.

Well, no. Marriage is a contract.

It's just that if Party A and Party B have a contract, and Party A violates said contract by sleeping with Party C--well, Party C wasn't a party to that violated contract, so there ain't shit that Party B should feel owed by Party C. It's between Parties A and B.

Clidna

Canada

January 2005

OCT 28, 2007 09:01 PM

I don't agree. I don't see marriage as a contract,

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Either way, I don't think fucking belongs in court unless it's a divorce trial, or a criminal matter. But that's just me.

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