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Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

OCT 15, 2007 05:22 PM

Zarth said:

Adroitbeing said:

Zarth said:

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.


Can you provide specific examples?


Are you for real?


He is NOT real and he has yet to understand that Ayn Rand wrote novels; that is to say...fiction.


Wait, what? Then who is John Galt?



I am John Galt!

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

OCT 15, 2007 05:49 PM

You know. I never really felt Condi believed a lot of the bullshit she had to peddle, and I do believe she believes in the diplomatic process, or at the very least, respects it a lot more than her counterparts in the administration (for instance: her and Rummy butting heads). Personally, I think she's a decent person that unfortunately got involved with some nasty morons.

[I appreciate Zarth adding some perspective on the matter.]

And FearTheReaper, I'm really disappointed that there was no "assassination plot" reference. frown

Taban

Taban

Oklahoma City, OK
September 2005

OCT 15, 2007 06:30 PM

BDeyeD said:
Pot, meet kettle. whatever





Sorry, it was just too perfect..

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 15, 2007 06:35 PM

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:

But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.



Can you provide specific examples?



Amazing

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

OCT 15, 2007 07:03 PM

Has Condi ever been to Haiti? She seems to be under the influence of a voodoo doctor.

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

OCT 15, 2007 09:38 PM

Formus said:

Zarth said:

Adroitbeing said:

Zarth said:

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.


Can you provide specific examples?


Are you for real?


He is NOT real and he has yet to understand that Ayn Rand wrote novels; that is to say...fiction.


Wait, what? Then who is John Galt?


I am John Galt!


Whew! At least somebody's John Galt!

Now, who is John Galt?

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

OCT 15, 2007 10:20 PM

Zarth said:

Formus said:

Zarth said:

Adroitbeing said:
He is NOT real and he has yet to understand that Ayn Rand wrote novels; that is to say...fiction.


Wait, what? Then who is John Galt?


I am John Galt!


Whew! At least somebody's John Galt!

Now, who is John Galt?



No, no, no ...

Who is on first.

KingHELL

kinghell

Portland, OR
July 2003

OCT 15, 2007 10:35 PM

photoline said:
Has Condi ever been to Haiti? She seems to be under the influence of a voodoo doctor.


Oh, what, because she's black? Racist.

gfvella

gfvella

Australia
November 2004

OCT 16, 2007 01:28 AM

Zarth said:
Putin really is a hell of a lot worse than Bush, at least considered from their respective domestic points of view ....The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.



I've always gotten the impression that the hubris of the Bush Administration was such that they truly believed that what they did and what everyone should do is and can be different. The do as we say not as we do refrain really gripes. Just look at the different approach to Iran and India and Pakistan over their nuclear programs. Hypocrisy does bad things for credibility.

gfvella

gfvella

Australia
November 2004

OCT 16, 2007 01:31 AM

KingHELL said:

photoline said:
Has Condi ever been to Haiti? She seems to be under the influence of a voodoo doctor.


Oh, what, because she's black? Racist.



What's with the constantly calling other people racist? Is it racist every time someone makes redneck or white trash jokes about Bush? Clichés, colloquialisms and sayings are just that. Stop reading so much into them or are you just trying to troll to disrupt the discussion? I doubt anyone on this site is down on Rice because she is a woman or because she is black. It has more to do with the crap job she and her boss have done.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

OCT 16, 2007 07:29 AM

jungle fever, omg condi love

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

OCT 16, 2007 07:39 AM

Zarth said:

Formus said:

Zarth said:

Adroitbeing said:

Zarth said:

jpaul256 said:
Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.


Can you provide specific examples?


Are you for real?


He is NOT real and he has yet to understand that Ayn Rand wrote novels; that is to say...fiction.


Wait, what? Then who is John Galt?


I am John Galt!


Whew! At least somebody's John Galt!

Now, who is John Galt?



A fake company involved with the World Trade Center recovery effort?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

OCT 16, 2007 07:55 AM

fountainofdreams said:

Zarth said:
Now, who is John Galt?


A fake company involved with the World Trade Center recovery effort?


Bingo.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 16, 2007 07:57 AM

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.



Can you provide specific examples?



The Bush administration has repeatedly claimed that the President has the Constitutional authority to completely ignore laws passed by Congress.

If massively expanded, unchecked Executive power doesn't sound authoritarian to you, then what exactly does?

Adroitbeing

Adroitbeing

I'm lost
September 2003

OCT 16, 2007 08:04 AM

Uncognitive said:

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.



Can you provide specific examples?



The Bush administration has repeatedly claimed that the President has the Constitutional authority to completely ignore laws passed by Congress.

If massively expanded, unchecked Executive power doesn't sound authoritarian to you, then what exactly does?



I believe the response will be..."Nut N Honey"

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

OCT 16, 2007 08:18 AM

Adroitbeing said:

Uncognitive said:

jpaul256 said:

Zarth said:
But Bush's domestic policies have definitely leaned a lot more authoritarian than those of any recent American administration since Nixon - and arguably a good deal further than that. The credibility of his officials - and of the United States in general - on such matters, then, is sadly compromised.


Can you provide specific examples?


The Bush administration has repeatedly claimed that the President has the Constitutional authority to completely ignore laws passed by Congress.

If massively expanded, unchecked Executive power doesn't sound authoritarian to you, then what exactly does?


I believe the response will be..."Nut N Honey"


Yeah, I didn't feel jpaul256's "question" even deserved a legitimate response at all, only because what Uncognitive described was only one of maybe a dozen "specific examples" that immediately spring to mind of how this administration has "leaned authoritarian," and was by no means the most egregious; authorizing torture, warrantless domestic surveillance, and suspending habeas corpus I think were probably the worst in that regard, though the politicization of the civil service has probably done the most lasting damage (as yet), and is also characteristically authoritarian.

Given the administration's documented policy history, either jpaul256 has been in a persistent vegetative state for the past six years or his question was disingenuous. I interpreted it as the latter.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 16, 2007 08:27 AM

Zarth said:
Yeah, I didn't feel jp256's "question" even deserved a legitimate response at all, only because what Uncognitive described was only one of maybe a dozen "specific examples" that immediately spring to mind of how this administration has "leaned authoritarian," and was by no means the most egregious; authorizing torture, warrantless domestic surveillance, and suspending habeas corpus I think were probably the worst in that regard, though the politicization of the civil service has probably done the most lasting damage (as yet), and is also characteristically authoritarian.

Given the administration's documented policy history, either jp256 has been asleep for the past six years or his question was disingenuous. I interpreted it as the latter.



Well, I felt like being pretentious, especially since there are some Bush apologists (I don't know if I can even call them "conservatives" anymore, since any actual self-respecting non-Evangelical conservative has already left the Bush camp for Libertarian Fantasy Island or Paleo-Conservative Jurassic Park) who think that anything short of cartoonish Stalinism isn't authoritarian.

I do think that one of the root causes of the authoritarian bent of Bush Jr's administration is the concept of the Unitary Executive. Bush literally ignored FISA law because he just assumed he could, and didn't feel compelled to tell anyone until after the fact. He just assumed he had the power to declare people to be "enemy combatants" and disappear them into torture dens without bothering with the law, the Constitution, or Congress.

There's never a bad time for a John Galt joke, though.

KingHELL

kinghell

Portland, OR
July 2003

OCT 16, 2007 09:57 AM

gfvella said:

KingHELL said:

photoline said:
Has Condi ever been to Haiti? She seems to be under the influence of a voodoo doctor.


Oh, what, because she's black? Racist.



What's with the constantly calling other people racist? Is it racist every time someone makes redneck or white trash jokes about Bush? Clichés, colloquialisms and sayings are just that. Stop reading so much into them or are you just trying to troll to disrupt the discussion? I doubt anyone on this site is down on Rice because she is a woman or because she is black. It has more to do with the crap job she and her boss have done.



I'm sure that a life spent growing up with Yahoo Serious as your national comedic icon has beaten any sense of humor out of you, but that was actually supposed to be a joke. Could have been my fault, though. It wasn't very funny. Next time, I'll try to write something so hilarious that even you'll understand that it's not meant to be taken literally.

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