I do not quite understand what is the deal with religion getting mixed up in a presidential campaign. Who cares? If a company is hiring a CEO, the candidate's religious, social, ethnic background is irrelevant, only his skill as an administrator and a leader. Politics should be the same.
jdmass said:
I do not quite understand what is the deal with religion getting mixed up in a presidential campaign. Who cares? If a company is hiring a CEO, the candidate's religious, social, ethnic background is irrelevant, only his skill as an administrator and a leader. Politics should be the same.
i agree. they should be, but sadly they aren't. back in the early 50s people raised holy hell over jfk being a catholic. i'd like to think that things have gotten better with time. obviously, they haven't.
jdmass said:
I do not quite understand what is the deal with religion getting mixed up in a presidential campaign. Who cares? If a company is hiring a CEO, the candidate's religious, social, ethnic background is irrelevant, only his skill as an administrator and a leader. Politics should be the same.
i agree. they should be, but sadly they aren't. back in the early 50s people raised holy hell over jfk being a catholic. i'd like to think that things have gotten better with time. obviously, they haven't.
See McCain's proclamation that only Christians will be good presidents.
Formus said:
See McCain's proclamation that only Christians will be good presidents.
He didn't say IMO that only Christians make good presidents, more along the lines of he'd prefer them to reflect Christian values (which I think Romney does). But still I believe your point remains...
Saeta said:
i agree. they should be, but sadly they aren't. back in the early 50s people raised holy hell over jfk being a catholic. i'd like to think that things have gotten better with time. obviously, they haven't.
Back in the early 50s they didn't raise holy hell about JFK being Catholic. He was running for the House of Reps and for the Senate in largely Irish-Catholic Boston.
It may have been an issue when he tried to get on the ticket as Veep in 1956... It was more or less defused when he won the state of West Virginia in the 1960 Democratic primary.
Saeta said:
i agree. they should be, but sadly they aren't. back in the early 50s people raised holy hell over jfk being a catholic. i'd like to think that things have gotten better with time. obviously, they haven't.
Back in the early 50s they didn't raise holy hell about JFK being Catholic. He was running for the House of Reps and for the Senate in largely Irish-Catholic Boston.
It may have been an issue when he tried to get on the ticket as Veep in 1956... It was more or less defused when he won the state of West Virginia in the 1960 Democratic primary.
Kennedy directly addressed the issue in a speech during the 1960 campaign where he attacked religious bigotry and the notion that he would take orders from the Vatican. Romney will have to do the same thing.
I think the fact that he is Mormon is brought up because there is a fear that he won't be able to seperate his church and beliefs from his duties as President. I don't know what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is like in the USA, but in Canada, the church and their beliefs come before everything.
Not saying whether it's right or wrong, just saying that's the way it is.
bald_eagle said:
I'm not that knowledgeable about them, either. But it seems to me that the current administration ties religious beliefs into the execution of duties as much or more than any other I can remember. Sometimes I wonder how genuine those beliefs are, but that's another matter.
It makes sense - to the degree that any organized relgion makes sense. If you believe there is a God, then all your actions should be dictated by what you think He wants. Heaven/hell trumps puny concerns about the Constitution.
Everything you say is true and it is exactly why when anyone says, "We need a person of faith in the White House," they are dead wrong. Anyone who puts their wacky archaic and often downright despicable believes(go read the Bible sometime, not exactly a great moral compass) before the well-being of the country, as any true follower of a religion would, should be immediately dismissed as an option in people's minds. What we need in office is a person of doubt. The second this country elects an intelligent atheist we are on the right track.
On May 1, 1857, a wagon train consisting of about 142 pioneer men, women and children departed Arkansas for California. The entire wagon train, except for some small children, was massacred by Paiute Indians and a body of Mormon men disguised as Indians. The Wagon Train is said to have assembled in Carroll Co, AR, but it has been suggested that many of the families who assembled were from Marion Co. or had close family ties with Marion Co families. Does anyone have any family history of these pioneers?
jdmass said:
I do not quite understand what is the deal with religion getting mixed up in a presidential campaign. Who cares? If a company is hiring a CEO, the candidate's religious, social, ethnic background is irrelevant, only his skill as an administrator and a leader. Politics should be the same.
jdmass
Argentina
June 2007
OCT 05, 2007 03:25 PM