PHISH INCIDENT

...without implying that I'm illiterate. I'm not, I promise.

Honey, my sword and spurs are still in the closet. If I feel the need to get them, you won't need multiple posts to notice.

And incidentally, Custer didn't charge. He sat there and got slaughtered unmounted.

He was charged with endangering the welfare of a minor and trespass.

No sex crimes.

No felonys.

These are minor misdemeanors punishiable by 60 days in jail.

So, no.

Even though this guy didn't do any molesting on the child, the whole point of this that you don't "borrow" somebody's kid without permission. This guy didn't ask the parent, and luckily it was for non-criminal reasons, and the child was un harmed. Unfunately,, nowadays when a kid goes missing, it is automaticly considered the worst, as in a molesting kidnapper.
I really would have hated being in his shoes when the Hell's Angels got to him first befor the cops did. I mean, what was going through this guy's mind, " OOO, I wanna take pictures of this child, I'm sure the daddy that's a Hell's Angel member wouldn't mind" "It's not like I was messing with his bike or anything" " Besides, she'll be back befor they even notice she's gone"
What a dumbass.

oh my god i love you. this exactly what i was trying to say all of this time and you put it into words for me. seriously, you hit it right on the head!!! thank you

They like me!! They really really like me!!!! LOL

If thats what happened, sure, but from everything I've read, it seems to me that what really happened was nothing more than a miscommunication with the kind of people who leave their nine year old daughter unsupervised backstage at a Grateful Dead show

This was not the company picnic.

reprobate said:

If thats what happened, sure, but from everything I've read, it seems to me that what really happened was nothing more than a miscommunication with the kind of people who leave their nine year old daughter unsupervised backstage at a Grateful Dead show

This was not the company picnic.


True, When
I was a kid my folks didn't let me out of their sight when we where in public places.

Phish's Mike Gordon was cleared of child endangerment charges this morning, more than a month after the bassist was found alone with a nine-year-old girl in a boathouse during a concert by the Dead at Jones Beach Amphitheater in Wantagh, New York.

"I am glad all the charges against me have been dismissed and I can put this misunderstanding behind me," he said in a statement. "I am grateful for the support I've received from my friends and fans."

After the August 11th incident Gordon, 38, claimed that he was taking art pictures of the girl.

The Nassau County District Attorney's office concluded that police had probable cause to arrest Gordon but that the misdemeanor endangerment charges were not provable beyond a reasonable doubt. "Mr. Gordon appeared at the arraignment this morning and the case was dismissed," spokesman Rick Hinshaw said. A violation charge of trespassing was also dismissed. The charges could have resulted in a year of jail time.

Following the incident, a joint statement credited to Gordon and the girl's family was released by Phish's label, Elektra Records. It read, "We have had several discussions regarding the situation that occurred at Jones Beach. It is now clear to all involved that this was an unfortunate misunderstanding, and we look forward to putting this matter behind us." An Elektra spokesperson could not confirm at the time whether a monetary settlement was reached between the parties.

GIL KAUFMAN
(September 19, 2003)


Rollingstone.com: Phish Bassist Gordon Cleared

another wire story included most of the above and the following paragraph:

Hinshaw said Gordon made no statements at the arraignment, which was also attended by the girl's parents. The girl's father -- who, along with Gordon, was an invited backstage guest -- was identified in media reports as a leader of a local Hell's Angels Motorcycle chapter.

what's wrong with getting high and letting your kids run around with pedophiles on the loose?

whether or not this guy is convicted of a pedo crime, has no sway in my opinion. if your taking pictures of a kid at 1:00am alone, for any reason , YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE!!!!!!!

Wow, don't bother you with the facts, eh?



As noted above, all charges have been dropped, and all parties involoved, including the girl's parents, say it was a misunderstanding.

Good point...there may well have been a payoff.

FWIW, In the article i read yeasterday it said that the DA's office had decided to drop the charges,on the prosecutor's request, for lack of evidence.

i thought the phish taking pictures of the girl at 1:00am alone was a fact.

Wow, don't bother you with the facts, eh?



As noted above, all charges have been dropped, and all parties involoved, including the girl's parents, say it was a misunderstanding.

i thought the phish taking pictures of the girl at 1:00am alone was a fact.


Listen to yourself. Please. You are saying that a person taking a picture of a child at 1am is a pedophile.

see above for your exact quote.

Every police officer, prosecutor and DA's office in America would disagree.

Please defend your logic here, if you can.

Listen to yourself. Please. You are saying that a person taking a picture of a child at 1am is a pedophile.

see above for your exact quote.

Every police officer, prosecutor and DA's office in America would disagree.

Please defend your logic here, if you can.

i am saying that every police officer, prosecutor and DA's oppion doesn't influence mine, if you are taking pictures of a child at 1:00am, alone you are a pedophile

nope, they seem fine to me

i thought this thread was about the phish incident, if your so alone that you want to know personal info about strangers, maybe you should try one of those dating web sites, i'm not trying to be snarky it just occured to me

the phish member is rich, he has the power to do almost anything he wants to do within the law. He chose to photograph a child alone (i could see if it was his or a relatives, it wouldn't be as wrong in my opion) at one am alone. This behaviour in my opinion makes him a pedophile. Whether or not i have the law's backing on this makes no difference to me. If that is not clear enough, then i guess it's ritual suicide for me

not entitled to an opion? ok, all heil code, the new Fuehrer, when does the train come to pick me up for my exercess

A true testament to the dangerous powers of the mighty force known as spin.