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VinnyVidiVici

VinnyVidiVici

Orange Park, FL
February 2006

AUG 31, 2007 05:56 AM

Esoteric said:
Last I checked, the Waffen SS was an elite group of volunteers dedicated to fighting for Nazi Germany, who originally came from 33 different countries. All of them were from Europe or "the West".



The Waffen SS was not composed entirely of volunteers. The Reichsführer introduced conscription to the Waffen-SS in 1943 to make up for crippling losses on the Russian Front and a lack of volunteers due to war fatigue on the home front.

erleichda

erleichda

Germany
May 2003

AUG 31, 2007 06:44 AM

Vinny_Blaze said:

erleichda said:

Esoteric said:

Actually, during the invasion of France (aka Operation Overlord) there were Waffen SS units who were counterattacking at 10% of their strength, i.e. they were still ocunterattacking when 90% of their unit had been either killed or wounded. Last I checked, the Waffen SS was an elite group of volunteers dedicated to fighting for Nazi Germany, who originally came from 33 different countries. All of them were from Europe or "the West".



And another weird piece of information:

The SS from 33 different countries, all of them from Europe or "the West"? That's bullshit.

Mind giving your source for that?

Edit: you might be mixing that up with volunteers fighting against Franco's fascists in Spain. Which would be quite some mix-up.



33 sounds high but there were more than a few foreigners serving in the SS.

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=307



Did some fact checking myself, and you're right.

Although it was not until the end of 1942 when most of their original members had fallen at the eastern front that the SS started to enlist great numbers of foreigners, eventually outnumbering the german SS members.

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

AUG 31, 2007 10:43 AM

how th'fuck does this thread go from my commentary on what I felt to be an interesting Dutch social program to the Nazis? surreal

Godwin's Law, right?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

AUG 31, 2007 10:51 AM

Cassiel said:
how th'fuck does this thread go from my commentary on what I felt to be an interesting Dutch social program to the Nazis? surreal

Godwin's Law, right?


Not really your typical Godwin, though. It went from Dutch social program to Muslim-bashing to cross-cultural attitudes towards death in battle to Nazis.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006
DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

AUG 31, 2007 12:59 PM

Zarth said:

Cassiel said:
how th'fuck does this thread go from my commentary on what I felt to be an interesting Dutch social program to the Nazis? surreal

Godwin's Law, right?


Not really your typical Godwin, though. It went from Dutch social program to Muslim-bashing to cross-cultural attitudes towards death in battle to Nazis.



Sweet, so I should be just in time to argue about Israel then?

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

AUG 31, 2007 01:42 PM

DrStinkypants said:

Zarth said:

Cassiel said:
how th'fuck does this thread go from my commentary on what I felt to be an interesting Dutch social program to the Nazis? surreal

Godwin's Law, right?


Not really your typical Godwin, though. It went from Dutch social program to Muslim-bashing to cross-cultural attitudes towards death in battle to Nazis.


Sweet, so I should be just in time to argue about Israel then?


That's so 2006.

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