NEWS: Back Off Our Illegal Immigrants, Jorge

We are blaming immigrants for coming here? Seriously? I think most of us realize the U.S. is a country built on immigration. So now we say, "Sorry, I know you damn foreigners want co come here too but but my ancestors already made it here , so we don't give two fucks about the rest of you who want a better way of life."

Get real. We entice them to sneak across our borders. If they land here, they can receive temporary benefits without being a citizen. If they get a job (or find someone to sponsor them), then they have a higher chance of staying here.

If caught, heir only "punishment" is being detained them being deported. So the "downside" is being shipped back to where they came from. Oooh. Scary stuff. I can see how that wouldn't be worth the effort.

So honestly, are they bad people? Should they be treated like prisoners or cattle?

I am so sick of people who claim that some immigrant "took their job." They are doing many of the jobs that our lazy fat asses don't want to do. They are willing to work from the ground up. That's more than I can say for many citizens of this country.

Instead of focusing on keeping them out, why not put our energy into making the countries they migrate from better? Our government should be working with theirs to develop programs that will help their economy, and their job markets.

I mean, we're in a country that basically dictates to other countries of how they should act - so why can't we help out where it really matters?

Oh, and bastridge, as an addendum to the Immigration act of 1965, Texas also passed the first ban on marijuana in the 60s - in hopes of getting those "damn Mexicans" out (after they used them for cheap labor).

We have such a pretty history.

Bush wanted to give them legal status but all the congrescritters in BOTH parties screamed bloody murder so now we have this plan instead.

Here's an interesting little tidbit of fact I thought you all might enjoy:

The largest segment of the population reaching retirement (babyboomers) are crotchety old white folk (some with nothing better to do then camp out along the border in lawnchairs complaining about everything from immigration to UFO's). Starting in 2012, over 61.3 million Americans will be retiring over the following 15 year period (roughly 1/3 of the population!) Of those leaving the workplace, approximately 45.5 million of them are white.

During the same period of time, the number of people entering the workforce (that are currenly aged 0-14) will be 59.8 million. Of which, 34.5 million are white. Hmm, there seems to be a worker deficit (1.5 million less to be exact). Guess which portions of the population happen to be the fastest growing segment and which happen to be the largest shrinking segment? The latino (hispanic, non-white) segment entering the workforce actually doubles over the course of the babyboom retirement (from 6 million leaving to 12.7 million entering). Meanwhile, the number of white people reaching retirement is far greater then those entering the workforce (45.2 million leaving vs. 34.6 million entering, that's a difference of a whopping 10.6 million people!!!)

So, what's the point of my little analysis? Simple, as more white people retire and leave the workforce, there is going to be additional strain on social services. Since boomers are progressively no longer going to be paying into these services (not everyone retires at 65), an entirely different segment of the population will be shouldering the burden. Would anyone care to guess who they will be and what color their skin is???

Bear in mind the information I've used is accurate and was taken directly from 2006 U.S. Census Data. Assuming that everyone surveyed is actually an American citizen (though this probably isn't actually the case), it's easy to speculate that an "underground" population exists who remain hidden and are unaccounted for in the census. Many of them are likely illegally living in our country, but are helping stimulate the economy and help keep *gasp* social services afloat to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars a year. I highly recommend you read the following New York Times article on the subject:
Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security with Billions

The simple fact is that most of illegal immigrants working in this country DO pay taxes but will NEVER receive benefits... So as you start to gray, relax and kick up your feet. Grab a nice, tall cold one. That social security check is as good as yours thanks to the hard work of someone who's been helping keep your toilets clean and your lawns mowed.

(Seriously though, I have my reservations about the whole illegal immigrant issue too. I think that it is a systemic problem that should be treated at its source... "Free" trade is not fair trade. Improving local markets and economies would help stem the flow of immigration, but Americans really don't care about helping others, we just like looting them for all they are worth).

Data & figures:
U.S. Census Bureau - National Population Estimates - Characteristics:
National Sex, Age, Race, and Hispanic Origin
Large Image (Since I can't post a spreadsheet w/ charts):

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Final thoughts: The census data I've used doesn't actually represent the true range of ethnicity in America. In fact, nearly 50 million "white" households are actually mixed (meaning they live with or are married to someone who isn't white). That's nearly 1 in 5 "white" Americans according to the 2006 census data.

if numbers is the issue...then it is easily solved. Get rid of all the dicks you have in local bodies and government and replace them with cool mexicans...it seems your quota on ppl who are high on the taste of their semen is at a premium...once their gone part of me believes that there won't be enough mexicans to fill the void that is left.
The 2% of ppl who run your country through their various 'needed' organisations are leeching the system more than the percentage of illegal workers that currently exsist in your country.

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Well I tried to fix the image in time (for my above comment), but I was too late. Here's the data image:

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Letting mass mexican immigrants in the country is the best chance the republicans have of getting Roe v. Wade overturned.

I thought that could only get overturned in the Supreme Court at this point.

Trader?


You must be one of those high school dropouts afeared for your kickass job at Wendy's.

tb

@ FTR

When the fuck did I say I was 'thrown off' by swearing? I fucking love swearing. I'm just saying it doesn't do wonders for one's credibility when one is talking politics.

And my sincerest apologies for missing the "s" in "horseshit" in my comment on a, as you say, titty site. But, in my humblest opinion, pulling out the grammar/spelling card means you ain't nuthin else up your sleeve., especially when it's on a simple typo.

But hey, this is just a titty site after all, right? Perhaps I'm expecting too much?

Right. You should be able to swear when discussing anything but politics.

Yeah, like fucking god or cocksucking Jesus.

Or that motherfucking Barry Bonds.

This country was founded by illegal immigrants. Why are the mexican immigrants any different that the German, Irish, or any other country in the worlds immigrants that came to America one hundred years or so ago?

I was being sarcastic. I could have sworn it was obvious.

It was.

was this nessicary? i just read it in the wrong context.



if i wasn't familiar with MrStitches i would have thought the same thing. people have said equally racist and xenophobic things in this thread and on this site.

also, i know you were trying to make your point, but its worth noting that mexico doesn't just suck. its a fabulous, complex, rich country full of wonderful cities, kick-ass food, world class universities, and a preserved cultural history. sadly, they have a corrupt and problematic government which responds and reacts to our probelmatic government...and a certain class of people are getting fucked.

srsly.
why is anyone even responding in this thread anymore? barstidge won it.

It's funny how if you support this kind of policy you are labeled a racist, considering that illegal immigration, primarily, adversely effect's our citizens who are poor, disabled, minorities, etc...

Damn... reading this thread my blood is boiling.

I will excuse myself with the Fifth Amendment.

I was kinda drunk when I wrote that TB, but thanks for spell checking my shit tough guy. I appreciate it and when you're done spell checking this maybe you can come over here and show me just how tough you are. Obviously there's not enough boobies to look at around here, eh?

Um...I don't seem to remember saying anything about wages...mine theirs or anyone else's. I was just stating a fact that many undocumented workers, or whatever non-offensive term you would like to use, are leaving South Florida. I have no problem with them one way or another. I think national borders are silly anyway. One rock, one air, one water, one people. I never really thought there was a "problem" to be "solved" anyway...thus the sarcastic "quotes".

So, are you saying you have boobies for us to look at?

Damn it, and I spent so much time compiling all the information and making those nice colorful graphs... But I get upstaged by the mere mention of boobies! Boobs!!! (Did anyone catch what I had to say?, Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?) [Looks to top of page...] Sheesh.

Awesome. Called out by a real, live coot. I feel like my life is complete somehow.

You can kick my immigrant-loving, silk tie-wearing, effete, over-educated liberal ass right after your meeting of the Benevolent Order of Ignorant Hillbillies is over, kay?


tb