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skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:18 PM

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...



And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"



man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.



skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last



Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.



As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.

alpha22

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ
May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:26 PM

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...



And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"



man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.



skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last



Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.



As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.



There are only three cable news networks. So what are you trying to point out.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:27 PM

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
... The same canidates are afraid to go on fox news because they will be attacked by the nutroots.



Kind of like the way Dodd is being attacked for going on O'Reilly's show?


Oh, that's right. He isn't.



He went on to impress the nutroots by standing up to bill. Dodd dosn't have a chance in hell of becoming the POTUS.



And you think that if a candidate who did stand a chance did the same thing, that they would be attacked?


Dodd's chances are irrelevant to your statement. You said that the Democratic candidates who are planning to attend the YearlyKOS conference were afraid to go on FOX News because they would be attacked by the left for doing so.

1. Dodd is attending
2. He went on O'Reilly's show
3. He wasn't "attacked" for doing so
4. Your connection to reality is tenuous, at best.

So, how does it feel, exactly, being a half-dead mouse?

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:29 PM

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...



And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"



man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.



skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last



Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.



As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.



There are only three cable news networks. So what are you trying to point out.



People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.



That you're apparently unable to read?

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:33 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:

mingol said:

alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo


Priceless.


No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .


Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.


.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.



Name three.

With citations.



SPOILERS! (Click to view)

MSNBC Narrows Gap on CNN in All-News-Network Battle
By Steve Donohue -- Multichannel News, 8/1/2007 3:45:00 PM
Fox News Channel dominated the all-news ratings race in July, while MSNBC posted the best growth in the category and narrowed the gap on CNN.

Fox News averaged a 1.2 primetime rating in July, down 14% from the same month last year. CNN averaged a 0.6, down 25% from 0.8, and MSNBC posted a 0.5 rating, up 67% from July 2006.

CNBC's primetime ratings were flat, with a 0.1 primetime average. CNN Headline News posted a 0.4 rating, up 33% from the 0.3 it averaged in July 2006.

Fox News accounted for 13 of the top 15 programs on cable news in July and 11 out of the top 12 in the adults 25-54 demo that advertisers target on all-news networks.

The O'Reilly Factor was the top cable news program, averaging 1.9 million viewers. Also in the top five: Fox's Hannity & Colmes (1.4 million viewers); The Fox Report with Shepard Smith (1.3 million); Special Report with Brit Hume (1.19 million); and On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (1.16 million).


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Posted: July 31, 2007

There's an interesting second-place battle among the three cable all-news channels.

July numbers out this week from Nielsen Media Research show CNN and MSNBC are neck and neck, with both of them well behind longtime first-place finisher Fox News Channel.

The top-rated MSNBC show: "Countdown with Keith Olbermann," with 672,000 viewers. CNN's now-canceled "Paula Zahn Now" averaged 546,000 viewers.

But both are in the shadow of the No. 1 show in all cable news, which airs in the same 7 p.m. hour: The Bill "O'Reilly Factor," which averaged 1.9 million viewers.

Fox News had 11 of the top 13 shows. Rounding out the top five are "Hannity & Colmes," "The Fox Report With Shepard Smith," "Special Report With Brit Hume," and "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren."





SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Program Ranker For July 2007
Of the top 15 shows on cable news in July, (M-F, 25-54 demo) 12 are on FNC. One is on CNN (Larry King Live), the other two are on MSNBC (the 'Doc Bloc' shows MSNBC Reports & MSNBC Investigates).

Click continued to see the rankings...



July'07 A25-54 Weekday Ranker (excluding breaking news & specials)

Net____ Program________________________ Viewers
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR________________ 375
FOX___ HANNITY & COLMES__________________ 362
FOX___ ON THE RECORD W/GRETA_____________ 351
FOX___ FOX AND FRIENDS___________________ 318
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT)__________ 303
FOX___ THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH__________ 292
FOX___ AMERICAS NEWSROOM_________________ 279
FOX___ SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME_________ 263
CNN___ LARRY KING LIVE___________________ 252
FOX___ LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM___________ 235
FOX___ FOX NEWS LIVE_____________________ 224
FOX___ FOX & FRIENDS FIRST_______________ 223
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES (RPT)__________ 215
FOX___ STUDIO B W/S.SMITH________________ 209
MSNBC_ MSNBC REPORTS (RPT)_______________ 207
CNN___ ANDERSON COOPER 360_______________ 205
FOX___ THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON__________ 204
CNN___ LOU DOBBS TONIGHT_________________ 203
FOX___ YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO__________ 198
MSNBC_ COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN_________ 185
HLN___ NANCY GRACE_______________________ 185
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES________________ 173
CNN___ PAULA ZAHN NOW____________________ 163
CNN___ SITUATION ROOM____________________ 160
HLN___ SHOWBIZ TONIGHT___________________ 153
MSNBC_ MSNBC LIVE W/ DAN ABRAMS__________ 147
CNN___ CNN NEWSROOM______________________



You do know how to actually cite things, right?

alpha22

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ
May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:44 PM

[SPOILER]

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:

mingol said:
alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo


Priceless.


No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .


Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.


.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.



Name three.

With citations.



You do know how to actually cite things, right?







That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:49 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
You do know how to actually cite things, right?


That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing



Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.

alpha22

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ
May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

BlastProcessing said:


alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
alpha22 said:
Zarth said:
mingol said:
alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo


Priceless.


No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .


Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.


.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.



Name three.

With citations.



SPOILERS! (Click to view)

MSNBC Narrows Gap on CNN in All-News-Network Battle
By Steve Donohue -- Multichannel News, 8/1/2007 3:45:00 PM
Fox News Channel dominated the all-news ratings race in July, while MSNBC posted the best growth in the category and narrowed the gap on CNN.

Fox News averaged a 1.2 primetime rating in July, down 14% from the same month last year. CNN averaged a 0.6, down 25% from 0.8, and MSNBC posted a 0.5 rating, up 67% from July 2006.

CNBC's primetime ratings were flat, with a 0.1 primetime average. CNN Headline News posted a 0.4 rating, up 33% from the 0.3 it averaged in July 2006.

Fox News accounted for 13 of the top 15 programs on cable news in July and 11 out of the top 12 in the adults 25-54 demo that advertisers target on all-news networks.

The O'Reilly Factor was the top cable news program, averaging 1.9 million viewers. Also in the top five: Fox's Hannity & Colmes (1.4 million viewers); The Fox Report with Shepard Smith (1.3 million); Special Report with Brit Hume (1.19 million); and On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (1.16 million).


SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Posted: July 31, 2007

There's an interesting second-place battle among the three cable all-news channels.

July numbers out this week from Nielsen Media Research show CNN and MSNBC are neck and neck, with both of them well behind longtime first-place finisher Fox News Channel.

The top-rated MSNBC show: "Countdown with Keith Olbermann," with 672,000 viewers. CNN's now-canceled "Paula Zahn Now" averaged 546,000 viewers.

But both are in the shadow of the No. 1 show in all cable news, which airs in the same 7 p.m. hour: The Bill "O'Reilly Factor," which averaged 1.9 million viewers.

Fox News had 11 of the top 13 shows. Rounding out the top five are "Hannity & Colmes," "The Fox Report With Shepard Smith," "Special Report With Brit Hume," and "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren."





SPOILERS! (Click to view)

Program Ranker For July 2007
Of the top 15 shows on cable news in July, (M-F, 25-54 demo) 12 are on FNC. One is on CNN (Larry King Live), the other two are on MSNBC (the 'Doc Bloc' shows MSNBC Reports & MSNBC Investigates).

Click continued to see the rankings...



July'07 A25-54 Weekday Ranker (excluding breaking news & specials)

Net____ Program________________________ Viewers
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR________________ 375
FOX___ HANNITY & COLMES__________________ 362
FOX___ ON THE RECORD W/GRETA_____________ 351
FOX___ FOX AND FRIENDS___________________ 318
FOX___ THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT)__________ 303
FOX___ THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH__________ 292
FOX___ AMERICAS NEWSROOM_________________ 279
FOX___ SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME_________ 263
CNN___ LARRY KING LIVE___________________ 252
FOX___ LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM___________ 235
FOX___ FOX NEWS LIVE_____________________ 224
FOX___ FOX & FRIENDS FIRST_______________ 223
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES (RPT)__________ 215
FOX___ STUDIO B W/S.SMITH________________ 209
MSNBC_ MSNBC REPORTS (RPT)_______________ 207
CNN___ ANDERSON COOPER 360_______________ 205
FOX___ THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON__________ 204
CNN___ LOU DOBBS TONIGHT_________________ 203
FOX___ YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO__________ 198
MSNBC_ COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN_________ 185
HLN___ NANCY GRACE_______________________ 185
MSNBC_ MSNBC INVESTIGATES________________ 173
CNN___ PAULA ZAHN NOW____________________ 163
CNN___ SITUATION ROOM____________________ 160
HLN___ SHOWBIZ TONIGHT___________________ 153
MSNBC_ MSNBC LIVE W/ DAN ABRAMS__________ 147
CNN___ CNN NEWSROOM______________________



You do know how to actually cite things, right?



That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.

Don't people on the left do the same thing. They think what ever comes from a left leaning site is the gosple and can't be disproven.

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

alpha22 said:

KUNGFOO said:

alpha22 said:
More people watch O' Reilly (at least 2 million a night) than any other cable news show. So I have to point out the fact that people who have never heard of the daily KOS website are now informed of it and will see the amount of hate that is on it. So in the long run Bill will win because of his strong ratings and nobody can dispute that.



You know, hate is a broad term that's pretty easy to throw around, and it doesn't mean much from a person who claims anybody who believes in left wing politics is automatically full of hate, yet shields his own feelings of hate of half-assed claims of being a buddhist.



I don't hate anything I just express a strong dislike. I see the hate from people who hate the rightwing so much they even sink to comparing fellow citizens with Nazi and comparing a two term president with their leader.



Will you seriously please SHUT THE FUCK UP! Honestly...you don't hate? Don't mind me calling
BULLSHIT! mad

BlastProcessing

BlastProcessing

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 03:01 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
You do know how to actually cite things, right?


That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing



Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.




Don't people on the left do the same thing. They think what ever comes from a left leaning site is the gosple and can't be disproven.



(Fixed to remove quote-bollocksing. ~ed)

So you admit that left-wing sites are, to paraphrase, gospel which cannot be disproved.

Great! I accept your apology.

Gringo

Gringo

Spokane, WA
May 2006

AUG 04, 2007 03:10 PM

BlastProcessing said:
So you admit that left-wing sites are, to paraphrase, gospel which cannot be disproved.

Great! I accept your apology.


You are soooo a shoe-in if Colbert ever needs a side kick. biggrin

dazedtangerine

dazedtangerine

I'm lost
July 2007

AUG 04, 2007 06:46 PM

TheGringo said:

dazedtangerine said:
At least they (dailykos) have some kind of moderation going on. Who the hell is there to moderate o'reilly's idiocracy?



Just this:



lmao, exactly why I don't watch his show. But who will save the others who are not so apt with this powerful tool? tongue

Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

AUG 04, 2007 06:49 PM

mingol said:

PatrickY said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:
And he still doesn't get it. Absolutely priceless.


Just like a cat that bats around a half dead mouse.


I'd say you're more like a cat that bonks its head on the tv whenever Mickey Mouse is on.


He's not the cat at all, he's the mouse. And "half dead" is probably too charitable a description.


Exactly. And exactly.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

AUG 04, 2007 10:11 PM

Kalashnikov said:
I agree with Mr. O'Reilly, I heard this segment on Serious Satalite Radio and he made a lot of good points.



Home-schooling didn't do much for your spelling, did it?

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 11:42 PM

ASSH0LE said:

Kalashnikov said:
I agree with Mr. O'Reilly, I heard this segment on Serious Satalite Radio and he made a lot of good points.



Home-schooling didn't do much for your spelling, did it?



Two choices -
A: He ran it through Spell-Check, and that's what it came up with. Oh wait, that would've passed Serious but caught Satalite. Which leaves
B: He thinks it's actually supposed to be Serious (and just goofed on Satalite)

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:50 PM

alpha22 said:

FearTheReaper said:

alpha22 said:
More people watch O' Reilly (at least 2 million a night) than any other cable news show. So I have to point out the fact that people who have never heard of the daily KOS website are now informed of it and will see the amount of hate that is on it. So in the long run Bill will win because of his strong ratings and nobody can dispute that.



Yeah, nobody can dispute it except the facts.

2005

2006

24-54 Male demographic

His ratings are plummeting.

Do you ever write anything that is not completely wrong?



You always pul out the oldest stuff you can find.He has the highest rated cable news show running.Now pull up some facts that proves me wrong.He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too so dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo his rating are falling nobody even comes close to him cable wise.



Welcome to the world of annual reports. November 2005, November 2006, the next would be????

Sleep on it, genius.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:54 PM

KUNGFOO said:

alpha22 said:
Fox News averaged a 1.2 primetime rating in July, down 14% from the same month last year.



That was from your own post.

This is what FTR said: (what you attempting to dispute)
.



Yes, I'd like to thank Alpha for making my point. In the last 2006 ratings I linked to, O'Reilly was pulling in 2.1 million viewers. According to Alpha here, he is now getting 1.9 million.

The freefall continues.

_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA
April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 01:44 PM

DailyKos founder Markos Zúniga's speech at YearlyKos offered a defense of progressive blogs:



It's okay to watch though, really, even after O'Reilly's warnings, Zúniga doesn't randomly launch into why he hates America, Christians, soldiers, babies, apple pie, heterosexuality and baseball.

kamagurka

kamagurka

Germany
July 2007

AUG 06, 2007 03:27 PM

Way to go, Bill! I'm not even American, and I have quite a bit of contempt for the man.

Skywisdom

Skywisdom

Portland, OR
December 2005

AUG 06, 2007 05:39 PM

kamagurka said:
Way to go, Bill! I'm not even American, and I have quite a bit of contempt for the man.



It's cool, we have plenty of contempt to share.

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

AUG 06, 2007 06:16 PM

Wow... In order to make a point, I suppose you have to throw everyone into labled piles that are either...

A) In agreeance with my beliefs.

or...

B) In disagreeance with my beliefs, and therefor must be associated with all forms of negativity, hatred and evil, so that the general public will hate them as much as I do, for having nothing more than a simple difference in perspective and opinion.

This is why I hate politics.

And this is why I refuse to learn the meaning of "republican", "liberal", and "democrat".

Aaaaahhhh, ignorance is bliss.

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