Boards > Current Events > NEWS: Bill O'Reilly Starts a Fight He Cant Win

skeptik

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:18 PM

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...

And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"

man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.

skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last

Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.

As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:26 PM

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...

And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"

man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.

skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last

Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.

As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.

There are only three cable news networks. So what are you trying to point out.

skeptik

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:27 PM

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
... The same canidates are afraid to go on fox news because they will be attacked by the nutroots.

Kind of like the way Dodd is being attacked for going on O'Reilly's show?

Oh, that's right. He isn't.

He went on to impress the nutroots by standing up to bill. Dodd dosn't have a chance in hell of becoming the POTUS.

And you think that if a candidate who did stand a chance did the same thing, that they would be attacked?

Dodd's chances are irrelevant to your statement. You said that the Democratic candidates who are planning to attend the YearlyKOS conference were afraid to go on FOX News because they would be attacked by the left for doing so.

1. Dodd is attending
2. He went on O'Reilly's show
3. He wasn't "attacked" for doing so
4. Your connection to reality is tenuous, at best.

So, how does it feel, exactly, being a half-dead mouse?

skeptik

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:29 PM

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:

skeptik said:

alpha22 said:
...
So my point is more people watch him then anyone else during his time slot must agree with his message. ...

And this is why your insistence on his ratings being some sort of powerhouse gamebreaker only shows that you've been drinking the Faux News kool-ade.

From your own quote, he got an average 1.2 rating in July. That means almost 99% of households were watching something else. Hell, he regularly loses out to reruns of Monk.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last!"

man , I just loved kool aide when i was a kid. Nothing like two cups of sugar in a gallon of water.

skeptic said
Their new marketing slogan should be "FOX News - we're not dead last

Thats CNN's slogan because MSNBC is dead last.

As opposed to FOX News, who are only third from dead last.

There are only three cable news networks. So what are you trying to point out.

People who watch TV for their news don't watch Fox News. They don't watch cable news at all. They watch things like Dateline or 60 Minutes, the top-rated news show, with about 5 times as many viewers as the Factor.

That you're apparently unable to read?

BlastProcessing

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:33 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:

mingol said:

alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo

Priceless.

No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .

Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.

.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.

Name three.

With citations.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

You do know how to actually cite things, right?

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:44 PM

[SPOILER]

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:

mingol said:
alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo

Priceless.

No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .

Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.

.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.

Name three.

With citations.

You do know how to actually cite things, right?

That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

BlastProcessing

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:49 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
You do know how to actually cite things, right?

That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
alpha22 said:
Zarth said:
mingol said:
alpha22 said:
dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo

Priceless.

No, the best part was

alpha22 said:

alpha22 said:
He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too . . .

Quoting himself looking like an ignorant ass was the really priceless bit.

.thinking to self...

Oh no, my spelling and grammar isn't perfect at one'clock in the morning

zarth is going to make me look like a fool.But he can't erase the facts are on my side.

Name three.

With citations.

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

You do know how to actually cite things, right?

That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.

Don't people on the left do the same thing. They think what ever comes from a left leaning site is the gosple and can't be disproven.

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL

August 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

alpha22 said:

KUNGFOO said:

alpha22 said:
More people watch O' Reilly (at least 2 million a night) than any other cable news show. So I have to point out the fact that people who have never heard of the daily KOS website are now informed of it and will see the amount of hate that is on it. So in the long run Bill will win because of his strong ratings and nobody can dispute that.

You know, hate is a broad term that's pretty easy to throw around, and it doesn't mean much from a person who claims anybody who believes in left wing politics is automatically full of hate, yet shields his own feelings of hate of half-assed claims of being a buddhist.

I don't hate anything I just express a strong dislike. I see the hate from people who hate the rightwing so much they even sink to comparing fellow citizens with Nazi and comparing a two term president with their leader.

Will you seriously please SHUT THE FUCK UP! Honestly...you don't hate? Don't mind me calling
BULLSHIT!

BlastProcessing

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 03:01 PM

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:

alpha22 said:

BlastProcessing said:
You do know how to actually cite things, right?

That is a correct observation. Just brushing up on my skills for next years face off between the right and left wing

Okay, look. Given your propensity for quoting right-wing blogs as credible sources, you're going to have to actually link the sources you quote for further review.

That, coincidentally, is what people who actually cite things do.

Don't people on the left do the same thing. They think what ever comes from a left leaning site is the gosple and can't be disproven.

(Fixed to remove quote-bollocksing. ~ed)

So you admit that left-wing sites are, to paraphrase, gospel which cannot be disproved.

Great! I accept your apology.

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

AUG 04, 2007 03:10 PM

BlastProcessing said:
So you admit that left-wing sites are, to paraphrase, gospel which cannot be disproved.

Great! I accept your apology.

You are soooo a shoe-in if Colbert ever needs a side kick.

dazedtangerine

I'm lost

July 2007

AUG 04, 2007 06:46 PM

TheGringo said:

dazedtangerine said:
At least they (dailykos) have some kind of moderation going on. Who the hell is there to moderate o'reilly's idiocracy?

Just this:

lmao, exactly why I don't watch his show. But who will save the others who are not so apt with this powerful tool?

zarth

Seattle, WA

December 2004

AUG 04, 2007 06:49 PM

mingol said:

PatrickY said:

alpha22 said:

Zarth said:
And he still doesn't get it. Absolutely priceless.

Just like a cat that bats around a half dead mouse.

I'd say you're more like a cat that bonks its head on the tv whenever Mickey Mouse is on.

He's not the cat at all, he's the mouse. And "half dead" is probably too charitable a description.

Exactly. And exactly.

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV

June 2003

AUG 04, 2007 10:11 PM

Kalashnikov said:
I agree with Mr. O'Reilly, I heard this segment on Serious Satalite Radio and he made a lot of good points.

Home-schooling didn't do much for your spelling, did it?

skeptik

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 11:42 PM

ASSH0LE said:

Kalashnikov said:
I agree with Mr. O'Reilly, I heard this segment on Serious Satalite Radio and he made a lot of good points.

Home-schooling didn't do much for your spelling, did it?

Two choices -
A: He ran it through Spell-Check, and that's what it came up with. Oh wait, that would've passed Serious but caught Satalite. Which leaves
B: He thinks it's actually supposed to be Serious (and just goofed on Satalite)

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:50 PM

alpha22 said:

FearTheReaper said:

alpha22 said:
More people watch O' Reilly (at least 2 million a night) than any other cable news show. So I have to point out the fact that people who have never heard of the daily KOS website are now informed of it and will see the amount of hate that is on it. So in the long run Bill will win because of his strong ratings and nobody can dispute that.

Yeah, nobody can dispute it except the facts.

2005

2006

24-54 Male demographic

His ratings are plummeting.

Do you ever write anything that is not completely wrong?

You always pul out the oldest stuff you can find.He has the highest rated cable news show running.Now pull up some facts that proves me wrong.He beats his competions by three time every night.Even his reruns beat CNN and MSNBC.I read TVnewers too so dont try to fool me with that liberal mumbo-jumbo his rating are falling nobody even comes close to him cable wise.

Welcome to the world of annual reports. November 2005, November 2006, the next would be????

Sleep on it, genius.

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:54 PM

KUNGFOO said:

alpha22 said:
Fox News averaged a 1.2 primetime rating in July, down 14% from the same month last year.

That was from your own post.

This is what FTR said: (what you attempting to dispute)
.

Yes, I'd like to thank Alpha for making my point. In the last 2006 ratings I linked to, O'Reilly was pulling in 2.1 million viewers. According to Alpha here, he is now getting 1.9 million.

The freefall continues.

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA

April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 01:44 PM

DailyKos founder Markos Zúniga's speech at YearlyKos offered a defense of progressive blogs:

It's okay to watch though, really, even after O'Reilly's warnings, Zúniga doesn't randomly launch into why he hates America, Christians, soldiers, babies, apple pie, heterosexuality and baseball.

kamagurka

Germany

July 2007

AUG 06, 2007 03:27 PM

Way to go, Bill! I'm not even American, and I have quite a bit of contempt for the man.

Skywisdom

Portland, OR

December 2005

AUG 06, 2007 05:39 PM

kamagurka said:
Way to go, Bill! I'm not even American, and I have quite a bit of contempt for the man.

It's cool, we have plenty of contempt to share.

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC

January 2006

AUG 06, 2007 06:16 PM

Wow... In order to make a point, I suppose you have to throw everyone into labled piles that are either...

A) In agreeance with my beliefs.

or...

B) In disagreeance with my beliefs, and therefor must be associated with all forms of negativity, hatred and evil, so that the general public will hate them as much as I do, for having nothing more than a simple difference in perspective and opinion.

This is why I hate politics.

And this is why I refuse to learn the meaning of "republican", "liberal", and "democrat".

Aaaaahhhh, ignorance is bliss.

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New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:18 PM

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:26 PM

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:27 PM

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 02:29 PM

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:33 PM

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:44 PM

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 02:49 PM

alpha22

Scottsdale, AZ

May 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

Fort Myers, FL

August 2005

AUG 04, 2007 02:53 PM

USA

OLD SKOOL

AUG 04, 2007 03:01 PM

Spokane, WA

May 2006

AUG 04, 2007 03:10 PM

dazedtangerine

I'm lost

July 2007

AUG 04, 2007 06:46 PM

zarth

Seattle, WA

December 2004

AUG 04, 2007 06:49 PM

Las Vegas, NV

June 2003

AUG 04, 2007 10:11 PM

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

AUG 04, 2007 11:42 PM

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:50 PM

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

AUG 04, 2007 11:54 PM

_kungfoo_

Los Angeles, CA

April 2005

AUG 06, 2007 01:44 PM

Germany

July 2007

AUG 06, 2007 03:27 PM

Portland, OR

December 2005

AUG 06, 2007 05:39 PM

Maple Ridge, BC

January 2006

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