I skimmed through the pages so I dont know if anyone has explained this, but the mobius strip is an idealised mathmatical shape in 3 dimensions, it assumes their is no depth in the figure itself, though it can be measured in 3 dimensions, which of course is impossible in our 4 dimensional reality.

The closest thing to replicate this illusion in 4 dimensions with a solid object when exposed to the naked eyes is a looped ribbon warped under its own weight, under a microscope of course we would find the second surface of its which is the cleavage between two unending topological surfaces.

Again I imagine this goes the same for the blown glass shape as well as it definitely has 2 surfaces, one on the outside and one on the inside, unless people are asking for suspension in our beleif in "volume", and that only one surface can exist here, you would think that the proud man displaying his glass blown mobius would have painted over the surface to obscure the transparency in the object that only helps reinforce the volumetric superstition....

CommunistCanuck

Canada

February 2004

JUL 19, 2007 03:16 AM

Oh yes my little brother reminded me that Mobius is also a comic book Vampire, though we couldnt remember if it was a DC or Marvel character.

Does this corporate dimension really matter?

discuss

Admiral_Pants

Austin, TX

May 2004

JUL 19, 2007 05:03 AM

CommunistCanuck said:
Oh yes my little brother reminded me that Mobius is also a comic book Vampire, though we couldnt remember if it was a DC or Marvel character.

Does this corporate dimension really matter?

discuss

A. You're thinking of Morbius, the Living Vampire.
B. Marvel.

gdarklighter

San Diego, CA

August 2005

JUL 19, 2007 08:33 AM

CommunistCanuck said:
I skimmed through the pages so I dont know if anyone has explained this, but the mobius strip is an idealised mathmatical shape in 3 dimensions, it assumes their is no depth in the figure itself, though it can be measured in 3 dimensions, which of course is impossible in our 4 dimensional reality.

The closest thing to replicate this illusion in 4 dimensions with a solid object when exposed to the naked eyes is a looped ribbon warped under its own weight, under a microscope of course we would find the second surface of its which is the cleavage between two unending topological surfaces.

Again I imagine this goes the same for the blown glass shape as well as it definitely has 2 surfaces, one on the outside and one on the inside, unless people are asking for suspension in our beleif in "volume", and that only one surface can exist here, you would think that the proud man displaying his glass blown mobius would have painted over the surface to obscure the transparency in the object that only helps reinforce the volumetric superstition....

I'm not entirely sure what you're smoking. A Mobius strip is, in fact, three-dimensional. A Klein bottle is four-dimensional, so every representation of it, including the one on the front page, is a projection of R^4 onto R^3.

Chainlink

Key West, FL

August 2005

JUL 19, 2007 08:42 AM

did you make all this up in one sitting or did it take a few tries ?

d20

San Francisco, CA

September 2003

JUL 19, 2007 09:05 AM

Admiral_Pants said:

A. You're thinking of Morbius, the Living Vampire.
B. Marvel.

fuck yeah Midnight Sons / Nightstalkers.

Angora

HOPEFUL

Flagstaff, AZ

JUL 20, 2007 12:37 PM

Interesting story! I would not normally read a story related to math, but this really got my attention.

When I look at mobius strip artwork, I am enchanted and confused at the same time.

skeptik

New Orleans, LA

February 2004

JUL 20, 2007 06:34 PM

Cigarette said:

emotedcreations said:

Tip-of-the-hat: skeptik

Boo. Page 1.

I was gonna say ...

Klein bottles are cool, and all. And that site is teh awesomesauce.

But I didn't post that.