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ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUN 30, 2007 08:25 PM

ogichida30 said:

PatrickY said:
Yup. Several of them. Paedophilia disgusts me deeply, but I don't see that as a license to wallow in kneejerk, unthinking violence-porn. Which is pretty much what you're doing.



Violence-porn? The problem is that our justice system is FUCKED, there is no rehabilitation, its just human storage. Most people in prison would do better in a different setting, I said the football thing to make light of a fucked situation. I do believe in not giving those sick assholes a second chance. They should be removed from the population for ever and prison is too good for them. But accusing me of "violence-porn"???



Yes, prison is TOO GOOD for them. Hopefully they'll get raped lots in prison, as that's the best way of assuring that they won't do the same to others when they get out, right?
whatever

While some of them most assuredly ARE, I'd hazard a rather uneducated guess that people don't necessarily up and decide to become one of society's most hated groups.

It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUN 30, 2007 08:30 PM

NickFaust said:
Just a quick language point. Pedophiles are people who are sexually attracted to children - i.e. pre-pubescent children (hince the "ped" suffix to the word.) Someone who wants to have sex with a teenager, while still a sexual predator and probably socially and sexually retarded, is not a pedophile.

Sorry, pet peeve.



And to further defuck-up the language, it's thereby not illegal to be a pedophile. It's illegal to act on that preference. By your definition (which is what I've understood to be true) "pedophile" doesn't necessarily equal "child molestor." Though I should suspect that a fair number of the former become the latter.

deusxmachina

deusxmachina

Honolulu, HI
May 2003

JUL 01, 2007 12:25 AM

NickFaust said:
The guys in who are the topic of this thread however, are purely predators. They use deception as their device. They are just not pedophiles. They are breaking the law, but they are not in the same category, psychically or psychiatricly as a pedophile.



+1

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

JUL 01, 2007 11:48 AM

i'm not saying that BEING with someone who is younger is a crime. i think that people are misunderstanding what i mean.(i was a teenage mother who was very sexually active from a young age-and i knew what i was doing as do some of the kids on the internet fucking with perverts) i'm just saying that a grown adult actively pursuing one over the internet is fucking creepy. god knows what those people intended to do when they got to that house. if you like younger people, that's fine. but beeing creepy over the internet and meeting them at their house with the intent of having sex with them knowing that its wrong....is fucking wrong. the issue isn't whether in some countries the age limit is 13 or 18. it's the fact that they shouldn't be lurking on the internet with the sole intent of taking advantage of these kids. i don't understand why you guys can't grasp that fact.

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

JUL 01, 2007 11:53 AM

ASSH0LE said:

It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.




i was sexually abused as a child and i didnt grow up to be a fucking child predator.
i too hate them, possibly more than some because i do have a child. but in my opinion it's every adults responsablity to protect the children in their society no matter where you live. it shouldn't matter whether or not they were abused as children, or like pre-pubescent or post pubescent children. it just doesn't matter. PREYING on anyone especially over the internet is fucking wrong, and something should be done about it.

aldoushuxley

aldoushuxley

USA
November 2005

JUL 01, 2007 02:50 PM

Keri said:

ASSH0LE said:

It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.




i was sexually abused as a child and i didnt grow up to be a fucking child predator.
i too hate them, possibly more than some because i do have a child. but in my opinion it's every adults responsablity to protect the children in their society no matter where you live. it shouldn't matter whether or not they were abused as children, or like pre-pubescent or post pubescent children. it just doesn't matter. PREYING on anyone especially over the internet is fucking wrong, and something should be done about it.



I am terribly sorry you had to go through that as I said earlier, many of the females in my family were sexually abused by my uncle. I saw what kind of hell they went through because of it so can kind of understand where you are coming from, no one should ever have to experience what you went through.

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

JUL 01, 2007 04:44 PM

aldoushuxley said:

Keri said:

ASSH0LE said:

It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.




i was sexually abused as a child and i didnt grow up to be a fucking child predator.
i too hate them, possibly more than some because i do have a child. but in my opinion it's every adults responsablity to protect the children in their society no matter where you live. it shouldn't matter whether or not they were abused as children, or like pre-pubescent or post pubescent children. it just doesn't matter. PREYING on anyone especially over the internet is fucking wrong, and something should be done about it.



I am terribly sorry you had to go through that as I said earlier, many of the females in my family were sexually abused by my uncle. I saw what kind of hell they went through because of it so can kind of understand where you are coming from, no one should ever have to experience what you went through.



especially from an internet lurker.
(and thank you for your concern)

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

JUL 01, 2007 06:02 PM

Er....I'd think "especially from a relative or family friend", but okay.

Anyway. Yes, predators are creepy, and I don't have much sympathy for them (honestly not any, now that I think about it.). But it's not about having sympathy for them, it's about having a fair, evenly applied justice system. And exempting a class of people from the normal rule of law (as some people seem to be suggesting) is a deeply risky thing because all it would take is being classified as that sort of person (regardless of the fact of the matter) and suddenly you're vulnerable in all sorts of new ways. Just ask the detainees in Guantanamo.

Keri

Keri

SUICIDEGIRL

Virginia, USA

JUL 02, 2007 11:44 AM

malkav11 said:
Er....I'd think "especially from a relative or family friend", but okay.
.



that was a give-in whatever

halsparks

halsparks

Santa Monica, CA
February 2005

JUL 02, 2007 02:04 PM

Hey everybody! What's up???

ASL?

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

JUL 02, 2007 08:06 PM

malkav11 said:
Er....I'd think "especially from a relative or family friend", but okay.

Anyway. Yes, predators are creepy, and I don't have much sympathy for them (honestly not any, now that I think about it.). But it's not about having sympathy for them, it's about having a fair, evenly applied justice system. And exempting a class of people from the normal rule of law (as some people seem to be suggesting) is a deeply risky thing because all it would take is being classified as that sort of person (regardless of the fact of the matter) and suddenly you're vulnerable in all sorts of new ways. Just ask the detainees in Guantanamo.



Here is the other thing.

Most research indicates that only between 100 and 130 children are abducted by strangers. And that is a decrease from the mid-80's rates, despite significant increase in population since then.cite Each of those 100 to 130 is a tragedy, but the reality is that the whole issue of stranger child abduction and molestation is greatly over blown.cite

As far as the general issue of sexual assault of children Strangers were the offender in just 3% of sexual assaults against victims under age 6 and 5% of the sexual assault of victimizations of youth ages 6 through 11.
cite Again, this is not to minimize the impact of this on the victim. However, the idea that children are victimized by pedophiles lurking around the school yard (or on the internet) is simply media hype.

CatWorship

CatWorship

Pottstown, PA
January 2007

JUL 06, 2007 02:00 AM

Keri said:

ASSH0LE said:

It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.




i was sexually abused as a child and i didnt grow up to be a fucking child predator.
i too hate them, possibly more than some because i do have a child. but in my opinion it's every adults responsablity to protect the children in their society no matter where you live. it shouldn't matter whether or not they were abused as children, or like pre-pubescent or post pubescent children. it just doesn't matter. PREYING on anyone especially over the internet is fucking wrong, and something should be done about it.



So, you were molested by someone you met online? If not, how is what you said even relevant?

Lots of people from my generation(including myself) were molested as children and there wasn't even a such thing as the internet. No, most of us were molested by uncles, grandpas, fathers, clergymen and authority figures that we trusted.

I think this new trend of thinking molesters are waiting around every corner to snatch your kid is ridiculous! They are more than likely in your own family.

So, parents, stop it with the horseshit! The chances of your kid getting kidnapped by a stranger and molested are about 00.1 percent.

And PS: how stupid are these kids to go with strangers anyway? Most be some good parenting going on in those homes.


TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

JUL 06, 2007 02:16 AM

halsparks said:
Hey everybody! What's up???

ASL?


*gets naked*

joker_

joker_

Minneapolis, MN
October 2005

JUL 06, 2007 02:19 AM

Keri said:
PREYING on anyone especially over the internet is fucking wrong



Agreed.

edith

edith

France
April 2006

JUL 06, 2007 04:56 AM

CatWorship said:
And PS: how stupid are these kids to go with strangers anyway? Most be some good parenting going on in those homes.





nope. this doesn't have much to do with it. teenagers are pretty good at having secret private lives online.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUL 10, 2007 08:09 AM

edith said:

CatWorship said:
And PS: how stupid are these kids to go with strangers anyway? Most be some good parenting going on in those homes.





nope. this doesn't have much to do with it. teenagers are pretty good at having secret private lives online.



"Secret private lives" is synonymous with "adolescence"

edith

edith

France
April 2006

JUL 10, 2007 11:29 AM

Cigarette said:

edith said:

CatWorship said:
And PS: how stupid are these kids to go with strangers anyway? Most be some good parenting going on in those homes.





nope. this doesn't have much to do with it. teenagers are pretty good at having secret private lives online.



"Secret private lives" is synonymous with "adolescence"



haha..god wasn't willing..you agreed with me again.

ASSH0LE

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV
June 2003

JUL 10, 2007 01:04 PM

Keri said:

ASSH0LE said:
It happened to them when they were a kid, they've got psychological issues, I dunno. They're just plain mentally fucked. I hate these fuckers, and I've known way too many people who're survivors of this to just say "forgive and forget," but I really don't think that the "fry 'em all!" mentality is likely to solve the problem.



i was sexually abused as a child and i didnt grow up to be a fucking child predator.



Nowhere in my response did I even come close to implying that EVERY (or even most) abuse victims become predators themselves. It IS a fact that a good many predators were once victims themselves.

Look at it this way. Some guy gets molested as a child. This warps his sexual orientation to the point that predatory sex with children seems "natural" to him. He's then no doubt going to add MANY children to the list of victims. Even if just one of those victims winds up repeating the cycle on many later children and it maybe never ends.

I don't hear anyone supporting creepy people lurking on the Internet with the sole intent of taking advantage of kids. That's wrong, and it's gross.

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