montestruc said:
Border security issues, that while no "Arab" terrorists have been proven to cross our border with Mexico, their are significant border security issues with that border. I posted several points upthread about it, and it went downhill from their as people belittled that "only" about 27 Americans had been kidnapped and taken across the border and held for ransom or murdered by Mexican drug gangs acting under the protection of corrupt Mexican police and Army officials, and only about 200 incidents of armed Mexican police or Army units crossing the US-Mexico border exist in the past ten years or so, with some incidents of Mexican police or Army units firing on US Border Patrol officers and also civilians on the US side of the border.

Why don't we focus on Iraq, where, by way of comparison, more than 3,500 Americans have died to date and there are hundreds of incidents EVERY DAY involving aremed enemies instead of police officers of an ally incidentially crossing an imaginary line in the sand? Can we take care of at least that, or maybe the fucked up neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx and Manhattan where hundreds of people die every year? Can we deal with insane poverty in this country first, too? Or how about finding a cure for cancer? Or working to provide for the future fiscal crises of Social Security? Or how about cutting the federal deficit? Or maybe working on a system of universal health care?

Maybe we could take care of those issues and the other dozen or so that I can think of off the top of my head that are more urgent, have more relevance to the day-to-day lives of more people, and are greater challenges to the future of this country BEFORE we focus on the pet issue of racist xenophobes? Hmmmm? How about that?

Having American citizens kidnapped from within the USA and taken out of it by criminals acting under the protection of corrupt officials of another government is hardly about xenophobia or racism.

If you have a problem with it, grow up the US government is supposed to protect it's citizens from that sort of BS.

Leaving aside for the momemnt whether immigration and the southern border are pet bete noirs of xenophobic racists, how is it more pressing than all the examples I gave?

This is not an important issue by any reasonable metric. It's an important political issue because xenophobic racists have their undies in a twist over it. It's people like you who need to grow up and realize that we have bigger fish to fry.

+1

The southern border is the least of our worries. It's always been open, it's ostensibly unclosable, and as anyone who has actually run the numbers will agree, we should all get down on our knees and thank this "flood" of "Illegals" for keeping our dubious economy afloat as we become less and less competitive in the world.

And, not for nothing, but there has been nothing better for the midwest, culturally, or culinarily, than the arrival of Mexicans in real numbers.

Security issue my ass. Tell it to Lou Dobbs.

gafp311

I'm lost

August 2004

JUN 26, 2007 05:35 PM

what can I say...until we find a way to change the minds of the politicians who run this country...there's not a whole lot you as a person can do. I, at least, do my part by not shooting people, not fighting, and generally trying to be a decent person wherever I go. Too bad that just isn't enough to stop our government from poking at hornet's nests.

emotedcreations

Germany

July 2006

JUN 26, 2007 05:54 PM

Glassmachine said:

montestruc said:

And the mice voted to bell the cat

*Snigger*

Can someone ban this racist?

Necia

San Francisco, CA

August 2005

JUN 26, 2007 06:22 PM

chikinhammr said:
I just hope I don't die in a Hot Topic store.

God, amen to that.

Tritone

Saint Paul, MN

May 2004

JUN 26, 2007 06:34 PM

Necia said:

chikinhammr said:
I just hope I don't die in a Hot Topic store.

God, amen to that.

On the other hand, if you get into a firefight in a mall, Hot Topic has the tactical advantage, what with all the bullet belts. It's the higher ground of mall real estate.