NickFaust said:
If you have been reading any of the newer studies about anti-oxidants, you will see that most are ineffective and not even benign. Some are thought to actually provide an environment that enhances tumor growth for instance.
The feeling is that suplements isolate compounds that need the presence of other compounds - found in the foods that the suplements are isolated from - in order to provide the beneficial effect they are credited with.
The simple fact is that a diet rich in fresh foods, preferably raised within 50 miles of your home, provides all the healthy nutrition, vitamins and minerals that you will ever need.
If you don't want to be subject to big business, you have to learn to live beneath the radar.
Nixie said:
Sod all the talk about vitamin suppliments. I don't take them so that's of no concern to me. What does concern me is the following;
1. Codex Alimentarius requires that all meats, poultry, fish, fruit and vegetables must be irradiated by Dec. 31, 2009. 2. Codex Alimentarius requires that all dairy cattle are to be given Monsanto bovine growth hormone by Dec. 31, 2009.
3. Codex Alimentarius reclassifies vitamin and mineral supplements as toxins and dramatically limits their dosage and availability.
I'm sorry, but that's just not right. Irradiate my steak? What they goona do? Bang it in the reactor at Sellafield for 30mins at Radiation Mark 5.
And don't even get me started on #2. Does anyone know what effects this Monsanto bov.GH has on humans?
Again, where's the source for this? Do you see a source for this that I missed somewhere? I don't see any evidence, in this article or on any of the pages the author linked to, that gives any supporting evidence for those statements. Even the site he got them from cites no sources whatsoever.
FellOnEarth said:
Fluoride here people, fucking FLUORIDE!!! We must protect "Our Precious Essence".
I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
I pass by rows and rows of pills and potions at Walgreens, Osco, CVS, GNC, etc. If all these products are not made by Big Pharma or Big Chemical, who makes them? Elves?
TBSheets said:
I pass by rows and rows of pills and potions at Walgreens, Osco, CVS, GNC, etc. If all these products are not made by Big Pharma or Big Chemical, who makes them? Elves?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Also, good job vilifying them by adding Big to their title, implying that all large companies are inherently evil. A rational view, to be sure.
StarBelliedBoy said:
How the hell did this get onto the newswire? Editors asleep at the switch?
SG newswire runs on a very simple principal. Ask three questions.
-Is this story unsubstantiated?
-Is this story reactionary?
-Is this story completely retarded?
If you answer 2 out of 3 with a "yes", then it gets approved.
This one takes a hat trick, so it didn't even get checked for spelling and punctuation before they posted it.
TBSheets said:
I pass by rows and rows of pills and potions at Walgreens, Osco, CVS, GNC, etc. If all these products are not made by Big Pharma or Big Chemical, who makes them? Elves?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Also, good job vilifying them by adding Big to their title, implying that all large companies are inherently evil. A rational view, to be sure.
Let's start here...
evanharos said:According to Dr Laibow, Codex doesn't serve people's health and well-being. Codex serves what she calls the 5 Bigs: "Big Pharma, Big Chema, Big Biochema, Big Agribiz and Big Medica" Judging by the sheer volume of pharmaceutical ads on TV these days there's no doubt sick people serve as cash cows for drug companies. If the US ever becomes fully Codex compliant those cash cows are gonna get a big dose of bovine growth hormone.
If you need further explanation:
People act if anything "herbal" fell like manna from heaven and wasn't manufactured for mass consumption in a laboratory inside a for-profit company. "the hell it has to do with anything" is at what point in the ledger does a company pass over from good to evil?
Way to miss the boat on this one. This is old news, and many of the Kickback All-Stars in Washington have been working for years to undermine our access to dietary supplements and foreign prescription drugs, all to support their friends in the pharmaceutical industry that have very deep pockets come election time.
Most importantly, direct your attention to Sen. Ted Kennedy, one of the key players in the longstanding effort to "reform the FDA" by allowing it to use both public and private funds, through a separate new agency, to conduct drug research. This same legislation, which was being hotly fought over this spring, along with several very important amendments to fix the more ludicrous components, had such vague wording that it leaves the door wide open for the government to declare almost any supplement and a great many food products as "drugs" and regulate them accordingly.
StarBelliedBoy said:
How the hell did this get onto the newswire? Editors asleep at the switch?
SG newswire runs on a very simple principal. Ask three questions.
-Is this story unsubstantiated?
-Is this story reactionary?
-Is this story completely retarded?
If you answer 2 out of 3 with a "yes", then it gets approved.
This one takes a hat trick, so it didn't even get checked for spelling and punctuation before they posted it.
I unsubstantiate my own stories, thank you very much.
Glaive said:
Way to miss the boat on this one. This is old news, and many of the Kickback All-Stars in Washington have been working for years to undermine our access to dietary supplements and foreign prescription drugs, all to support their friends in the pharmaceutical industry that have very deep pockets come election time.
Most importantly, direct your attention to Sen. Ted Kennedy, one of the key players in the longstanding effort to "reform the FDA" by allowing it to use both public and private funds, through a separate new agency, to conduct drug research. This same legislation, which was being hotly fought over this spring, along with several very important amendments to fix the more ludicrous components, had such vague wording that it leaves the door wide open for the government to declare almost any supplement and a great many food products as "drugs" and regulate them accordingly.
It's not even old news, it's an urban legend, spawned by misunderstood proposed legislation that never even made it to the floor.
bean said:
It's not even old news, it's an urban legend, spawned by misunderstood proposed legislation that never even made it to the floor.
I thought we established this already?
Me too, but apparently people need to be reminded because they keep talking about it like it's real.
Yeah, it seems as if half of these posts have a mental block that keeps them from realizing that this entire story is a fantasy presented by a company that sells fucking vitamins!
stigmatamartyr13
Indianapolis, IN
February 2007
JUN 06, 2007 04:37 AM