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Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 31, 2007 02:27 PM

All the more reason to "update." I'm sure that term made sense back during those expansion periods when we had little information on how large this continent truly was.

But then again, we still call aluminum foil "tin foil."

Viva la progress.

zarth

Seattle, WA

December 2004

MAR 31, 2007 02:54 PM

TheGringo said:
All the more reason to "update." I'm sure that term made sense back during those expansion periods when we had little information on how large this continent truly was.

But then again, we still call aluminum foil "tin foil."

Viva la progress.

Oh, we had information on how large it was. It all just happened to belong to other people prior to a couple of wars and a subsequent decades-long campaign of ethnic cleansing.

What are they teaching kids in school, these days?

saltonsea

Toronto, ON

July 2004

MAR 31, 2007 03:02 PM

Zarth said:

TheGringo said:
All the more reason to "update." I'm sure that term made sense back during those expansion periods when we had little information on how large this continent truly was.

But then again, we still call aluminum foil "tin foil."

Viva la progress.

Oh, we had information on how large it was. It all just happened to belong to other people prior to a couple of wars and a subsequent decades-long campaign of ethnic cleansing.

What are they teaching kids in school, these days?

mmmm.......manifest destiny. so delicious.

Necia

San Francisco, CA

August 2005

MAR 31, 2007 03:11 PM

TheGringo said:

Necia said:
I wonder whether people just don't know where any of the states in the Midwest actually are. Or that there are actually states here.

(Actually, though, you're probably right about the NC assumption.)

I dated this girl from Michigan who considered MI and IL to be part of the midwest. She then claimed that "everyone" from her state considered Michigan to be part of the midwest. This totally baffled me.

I pulled up a map and showed her it's nowhere near any "mid" or "west" at all. If anything, Michigan would be the "mideast".

Technically, it seems like states such Colorado and Utah would be the midwest.

We're not exactly a smart population.

I think this

is what makes up the Midwest.

That's how I've always thought of it. I think Michigan counts as the Midwest. Even though it's weird and its residents talk at LEAST as funny as Minnesotans if not more so and it has somehow wormed its way into the Eastern timezone, which makes no sense.

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 31, 2007 03:12 PM

I've decided that I will not have children until this country reverts back to having prayer time in the classroom and throws out this new-fangled evolution theory crap they teach in school.

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Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 31, 2007 03:13 PM

Necia, it's all part of man's plot to convince people of things that simply are not true.

Psst.... _____________________________ <----this is 9 inches.
For serious.

Bastardo

Boston, MA

January 2005

MAR 31, 2007 03:17 PM

Necia said:

NickFaust said:

Necia said:

Jace said:
I'm coming into this discussion late, but...

What the fuck is wrong with the South? Seriously?

You do realize that North Dakota is not by any stretch of the imagination a southern state, right?

I saw this when he posted it but I didn't have the energy to mount yet another discussion about prejudice directed at the South based on my assumption that he read the headline quickly and just assumed that it was talking about North Carolina.

But maybe he was juts another kind of stupid.

I wonder whether people just don't know where any of the states in the Midwest actually are. Or that there are actually states here.

(Actually, though, you're probably right about the NC assumption.)

You mean there isn't a state called Midwest? Huh.

Bastardo

Boston, MA

January 2005

MAR 31, 2007 03:18 PM

Necia said:

TheGringo said:

Necia said:
I wonder whether people just don't know where any of the states in the Midwest actually are. Or that there are actually states here.

(Actually, though, you're probably right about the NC assumption.)

I dated this girl from Michigan who considered MI and IL to be part of the midwest. She then claimed that "everyone" from her state considered Michigan to be part of the midwest. This totally baffled me.

I pulled up a map and showed her it's nowhere near any "mid" or "west" at all. If anything, Michigan would be the "mideast".

Technically, it seems like states such Colorado and Utah would be the midwest.

We're not exactly a smart population.

I think this

is what makes up the Midwest.

That's how I've always thought of it. I think Michigan counts as the Midwest. Even though it's weird and its residents talk at LEAST as funny as Minnesotans if not more so and it has somehow wormed its way into the Eastern timezone, which makes no sense.

I also call you guys the square states. We got some weird scraggly arm coming off of ours.

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

MAR 31, 2007 03:18 PM

And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

Necia

San Francisco, CA

August 2005

MAR 31, 2007 03:33 PM

Necia said:

TheGringo said:

Necia said:
I wonder whether people just don't know where any of the states in the Midwest actually are. Or that there are actually states here.

(Actually, though, you're probably right about the NC assumption.)

I dated this girl from Michigan who considered MI and IL to be part of the midwest. She then claimed that "everyone" from her state considered Michigan to be part of the midwest. This totally baffled me.

I pulled up a map and showed her it's nowhere near any "mid" or "west" at all. If anything, Michigan would be the "mideast".

Technically, it seems like states such Colorado and Utah would be the midwest.

We're not exactly a smart population.

I think this

is what makes up the Midwest.

That's how I've always thought of it. I think Michigan counts as the Midwest. Even though it's weird and its residents talk at LEAST as funny as Minnesotans if not more so and it has somehow wormed its way into the Eastern timezone, which makes no sense.

I also call you guys the square states. We got some weird scraggly arm coming off of ours.

My state's kinda scraggly. Minnesota's just got a square lower-left corner.

And Wisconsin would be scragglier if Michigan hadn't oddly claimed the UP. That also makes no sense about Michigan.

Other than that, though, you're pretty much right.

Necia

San Francisco, CA

August 2005

MAR 31, 2007 03:33 PM

Subrosa said:
And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

Srsly!

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

MAR 31, 2007 06:11 PM

Subrosa said:
And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

However, there are ....

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

ElizaTheTroll

Australia

January 2006

MAR 31, 2007 08:15 PM

TheGringo said:

Subrosa said:
And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

However, there are ....

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

My preferred kind, actually, seeing as I'm no big fan of sovereigns, female or not.

SineFato

Garden Grove, CA

January 2007

APR 01, 2007 01:02 AM

I'll start with saying that I don't at all agree with the ruling. I understand it completely, but I think that people should be free to do what they want with their property (and body) when they want without asking mommy and daddy for permission.

BUT. I think the writer of this article is turning it into a gender war that it is not meant to be.

Could it be any clearer that children--especially girl children--are essentially chattel in the eyes of these people? In ND, kids over 14 can get confidential treatment for addiction or STDs (as they should). But pregnancy, which specifically affects only girls? Nope.

There is a big difference between a check for an STD and care for someone who has another living thing inside their womb that will affect the rest of their life (Mind you an STD like herpes or HIV will affect the rest of your life, but it's not something that your going to have to throw money at for the next 18 years). Also if guys could get pregnant then I'm pretty sure they would be required by that law to get permission for prenatal care as well.

I think they should be more concerned about why so many girls that young are getting pregnant in the first place.

That's just my 0.02

Gringo

Spokane, WA

May 2006

APR 01, 2007 01:14 AM

Not only that, SineFato - but it sucks that kids can't be completely open and honest with their parents in the first place.

But then again, part of being totally honest requires the ability of the persons (or parents) hearing that honestly to be able to handle it.

It's a shame that parents can't just allow their kids to be completely honest about what they are exploring without turning into some kind of warden.

ASSH0LE

Las Vegas, NV

June 2003

APR 01, 2007 01:43 AM

Subrosa said:
And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

You are a meathead.

From San Francisco, to boot.

SocietysPliers

Ocala, FL

October 2004

APR 01, 2007 02:19 AM

SignalNoise said:
So, I have a very real question, and it's something I've wondered about for a bit:

Just how does parental notification generally work for medical treatment? I remember, vaguely, as a teen my parents having to sign for me to be treated - b/c as a minor I have restricted rights (this is, I believe, why things like drug testing, locker searches, and restricted speech are all possible on high school campuses, right?). I mean, am I remembering this wrong - is this a weird Illinois law, or were my parents actually signing an insurance form? (But really - I could have *sworn* it was a "Freedom to Treat" clause or some such thing).

Really - I'm asking and not making any point: Just what is the current relationship, in general, between parents and their consent in their children's medical treatment? 'Cause that would seem to matter here.

As I said here, this is all I know:
"Here (in Florida), when I was in family practice, we couldn't treat children at all without their patents or guardian; not for routine stuff like school physicals, colds, fractues or anything. I'm not sure about now, as I'm no longer in family practice and I have no dialysis patients that are minors, nor am I sure about pregnancies or abortions, as across the board we needed the "responsible" adult(s) present (in certain cases we accepted written permission following a phone call from a parent we recognized), but no one wanted to risk a law suit or license loss or whatever."

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

APR 02, 2007 05:34 AM

TheGringo said:

Subrosa said:
And why do they call that place in New York "Queens"??

THERE ARE NO FEMALE SOVEREIGNS THERE!!!!!

However, there are ....

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

It takes alot for me to cringe. It takes alot more for me to snort a carbonated beverage out of my nose.

Congradulations, you fucking asshole.

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH

April 2004

APR 02, 2007 06:20 AM

TheGringo said:
All the more reason to "update." I'm sure that term made sense back during those expansion periods when we had little information on how large this continent truly was.

But then again, we still call aluminum foil "tin foil."

Viva la progress.

You get on that. I'll follow suit when it catches on.

SignalNoise

USA

February 2004

APR 02, 2007 07:32 PM

SocietysPliers said:
As I said here, this is all I know:
"Here (in Florida), when I was in family practice, we couldn't treat children at all without their patents or guardian; not for routine stuff like school physicals, colds, fractues or anything. I'm not sure about now, as I'm no longer in family practice and I have no dialysis patients that are minors, nor am I sure about pregnancies or abortions, as across the board we needed the "responsible" adult(s) present (in certain cases we accepted written permission following a phone call from a parent we recognized), but no one wanted to risk a law suit or license loss or whatever."

Gracias - and sorry I missed this the first time. Anyway, *I* don't want to make the point about what this means for parental approval for teens receiving family planning of any kind - but it seems to matter in some fashion. Or, at least, there's a *broader* argument about children's rights that needs to go on.

Larianna

Portland, OR

October 2005

APR 03, 2007 11:27 AM

I was born and raised in North Dakota. Lived there until last year.

It makes me really sad that my home state can't learn to be more progressive.

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