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Zarth

zarth

Seattle, WA
December 2004

MAR 24, 2007 12:42 PM

oyaji said:

Zarth said:
If you can say it Latin.


Wooshissimus maximus.


I guess that's why you get paid the buximus maximus.

mingol

mingol

Singapore
July 2005

MAR 24, 2007 02:43 PM

chainlink said:
is this where the "whoosh" goes?

Zarth said:
If you can say it Latin.



Acta est fabula plaudite!

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

MAR 24, 2007 04:34 PM

More...


Say, did you know that Stephen Griles is a felon? But he's about to be a felon whose silence has been bought. At least those appear to be the terms of the plea deal he just made:

Former Deputy Interior Secretary Steven Griles will plead guilty to one count of obstruction of justice in the Jack Abramoff corruption investigation, The Associated Press has learned.

[snip]

Prosecutors dropped earlier allegations that Griles did anything improper to help Abramoff or gained anything of value from the former Republican lobbyist, the AP was told. The agreement does not require Griles to help investigators with their grand jury probe.

In exchange for the plea, federal prosecutors will seek no more than a 10-month prison sentence for Griles _ the minimum they could seek under sentencing guidelines _ but they will agree to let him serve half that in home confinement, according to one person involved in the case.

So what has changed? Why did they drop the other charges, and why don't they want his help? Well, keep reading:

Griles lives in Virginia with Sue Ellen Wooldridge, who until January was an assistant attorney general in charge of the Justice Department's environmental division.

The AP reported in February that Wooldridge, as the nation's environmental prosecutor, bought a $980,000 vacation home last year with Griles and Donald R. Duncan, the top Washington lobbyist for ConocoPhillips. Nine months later, she signed an agreement giving the company more time to clean up air pollution at some of its refineries.

You see, Griles ties right into this great boondoggle BushCo dreamt up, whereby favored oil companies basically get to sell us our own gas at inflated rates and then, later, they get to sell our own gas to the market at deflated rates (with kickbacks thrown in for those, like Wooldridge, arranging this gig). And it was all dreamt up by Sue Ellen Wooldridge.

According to this article, the investigation began several months before December, but picked up steam in December.

People familiar with the investigation said it had begun several months ago, but had picked up speed in the last few weeks.

Hmm. December. What happened in the Justice Department in December?

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

MAR 24, 2007 06:07 PM

*eyes the comments made by Munio and various posters*

I had a Dream!


In it.... I saw a green post and a padlock!

tongue

YUSUF

YUSUF

Detroit, MI
November 2006

MAR 24, 2007 06:15 PM

I don't know if I was just having a bad dream, but I remember that this guy Gonzalez was saying yesterday that he's needed because he's "tough on Child Molestors". WTF??? I guess that's a desparate card he's pulling. I had no opinion of him until that, i figured all the criticism was just politics. well, what an ass wipe. puke

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

MAR 24, 2007 06:46 PM

YUSUF said:
I don't know if I was just having a bad dream, but I remember that this guy Gonzalez was saying yesterday that he's needed because he's "tough on Child Molestors". WTF??? I guess that's a desparate card he's pulling. I had no opinion of him until that, i figured all the criticism was just politics. well, what an ass wipe. puke



Welcome to the fold, young liberal tongue

TheFuckOffKid

TheFuckOffKid

NEWSWIRE

Australia

MAR 24, 2007 08:14 PM

Zarth said:

oyaji said:

Zarth said:
If you can say it Latin.


Wooshissimus maximus.


I guess that's why you get paid the buximus maximus.



*LOLs freals, and applauds*

Lovely exchange. smile

soulcompromise

soulcompromise

I'm lost
November 2006

MAR 25, 2007 05:50 PM

Earlier this week, the nonpartisan congressional watchdog Democracy 21 questioned whether or not Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty had allowed political interference to affect the investigation and prosecution of Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff. The scandal was expected to be huge but it seems to have just petered out.



Maybe they report the news different this year... shocked

YUSUF

YUSUF

Detroit, MI
November 2006

MAR 25, 2007 08:10 PM

MschfMayhemSoap said:
Welcome to the fold, young liberal tongue



actually, I've been in the fold... it was just a
momentary spasm of being "fair". in reality
the bullsh*t flows both ways ya know. But
for sure I'm against all their b.s. (i served during
Gulf 1).

glad to know you're from Texas... check out
Ron Paul from Texas he's running for Prez if you
don't know about him. a republican but really a
Libertarian, he's antiwar. The only guy that talks
straight, consistently...

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

MAR 25, 2007 08:32 PM

YUSUF said:

MschfMayhemSoap said:
Welcome to the fold, young liberal tongue



actually, I've been in the fold... it was just a
momentary spasm of being "fair". in reality
the bullsh*t flows both ways ya know. But
for sure I'm against all their b.s. (i served during
Gulf 1).

glad to know you're from Texas... check out
Ron Paul from Texas he's running for Prez if you
don't know about him. a republican but really a
Libertarian, he's antiwar. The only guy that talks
straight, consistently...



Texas has had a track record of "straight-talkin" presidents...... I claim LBJ as the one closest to an Honest Pres we've had.

I want a grass roots pres.... someone who gets elected on his/her own merits, not from how much "favor money" has been spent to get them elected.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

MAR 25, 2007 08:36 PM

oyaji said:

MschfMayhemSoap said:

YUSUF said:

MschfMayhemSoap said:
Welcome to the fold, young liberal tongue



actually, I've been in the fold... it was just a
momentary spasm of being "fair". in reality
the bullsh*t flows both ways ya know. But
for sure I'm against all their b.s. (i served during
Gulf 1).

glad to know you're from Texas... check out
Ron Paul from Texas he's running for Prez if you
don't know about him. a republican but really a
Libertarian, he's antiwar. The only guy that talks
straight, consistently...



Texas has had a track record of "straight-talkin" presidents...... I claim LBJ as the one closest to an Honest Pres we've had.

I want a grass roots pres.... someone who gets elected on his/her own merits, not from how much "favor money" has been spent to get them elected.



LBJ was one of the most cynically dishonest presidents.



therin lies my point. tongue

NickFaust

NickFaust

USA
April 2004

MAR 26, 2007 05:50 AM

MschfMayhemSoap said:
I want a grass roots pres.... someone who gets elected on his/her own merits, not from how much "favor money" has been spent to get them elected.



Oh! You mean like Jimmy Carter.

Yeah, that was a big success.

MschfMayhemSoap

MschfMayhemSoap

Phoenix, AZ
April 2006

MAR 26, 2007 06:52 PM

NickFaust said:

MschfMayhemSoap said:
I want a grass roots pres.... someone who gets elected on his/her own merits, not from how much "favor money" has been spent to get them elected.



Oh! You mean like Jimmy Carter.

Yeah, that was a big success.



yes the man sucked.... though I still want to believe in the theory. That a president can rise who isn't in anyones pocket, and do a good job.

orbro

orbro

New York, NY
July 2004

MAR 27, 2007 12:27 AM

I only read about 7 pages of this thread so forgive me if someone already mentioned this point.

The Republican Attorneys were fired for not prosecuting Democrats for voter fraud. They didn't prosecute because they couldn't find any evidence of Democratic Party voter fraud.

This case is also all about ongoing Republican voter fraud. See Votelaw.

substitute

substitute

New Lenox, IL
August 2004

MAR 29, 2007 05:10 PM

I don't see what the hell the reason people are making a big deal about this, these attorney's were fired for the same reason they were hired for. Those reason were political reasons. No one made a big stink when Clinton fired 93 of them when he took office.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 29, 2007 05:15 PM

substitute said:
I don't see what the hell the reason people are making a big deal about this, these attorney's were fired for the same reason they were hired for. Those reason were political reasons. No one made a big stink when Clinton fired 93 of them when he took office.



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saltonsea

saltonsea

Toronto, ON
July 2004

MAR 29, 2007 05:19 PM

mamet said:

substitute said:
I don't see what the hell the reason people are making a big deal about this, these attorney's were fired for the same reason they were hired for. Those reason were political reasons. No one made a big stink when Clinton fired 93 of them when he took office.



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it's like the Jason Voorhees of intertube board points

wildswan

wildswan

I'm lost
June 2006

MAR 29, 2007 05:20 PM

mamet said:

substitute said:
I don't see what the hell the reason people are making a big deal about this, these attorney's were fired for the same reason they were hired for. Those reason were political reasons. No one made a big stink when Clinton fired 93 of them when he took office.



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The sound of synapses misfiring?

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 29, 2007 07:04 PM

oyaji said:
Let's start with reading the fucking thread before making a comment that's been made and discussed ad infinitum already.



No one said anything when Clinton didn't read the thread!

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

MAR 29, 2007 07:08 PM

mamet said:

oyaji said:
Let's start with reading the fucking thread before making a comment that's been made and discussed ad infinitum already.



No one said anything when Clinton didn't read the thread!



I dunno if y'all are aware, but Clinton fired a bunch of attorneys when he took office.

Sorry.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

MAR 29, 2007 07:15 PM

oyaji said:

JohnClement said:

mamet said:

oyaji said:
Let's start with reading the fucking thread before making a comment that's been made and discussed ad infinitum already.



No one said anything when Clinton didn't read the thread!



I dunno if y'all are aware, but Clinton fired a bunch of attorneys when he took office.

Sorry.



FYI.



Even though I want to do entertainment law, would you please get me a job when I matriculate?

HeyZeus

HeyZeus

Oakland, CA
August 2006

MAR 29, 2007 10:03 PM

substitute said:
I don't see what the hell the reason people are making a big deal about this, these attorney's were fired for the same reason they were hired for. Those reason were political reasons. No one made a big stink when Clinton fired 93 of them when he took office.



Thanks for the update, or in this case the lack thereof, on the Fox news talking point. Please post again if and when it's changed to reflect new facts.

chikinhammr

chikinhammr

Orlando, FL
April 2006

MAR 30, 2007 08:07 AM

Let me prelude this before I get bombarded with hateful replies. I hate George W.Bush, but I am neither a Republican nor Democrat. The President of the United States has the right and privilege to fire Federal Prosecutors for any reason he or she wishes. These Prosecutors are hired by Presidents based on their politics, and their politics are a perfectly legitimate reason to terminate them. There is nothing sinister about this stupid story. Bill Clinton, a liberal favorite, fired 93 Federal Prosecutors in his first six months in office and nobody said jack shit about it. If Democrats want to bitch about this now, they need to expect scrutiny when it's their turn in the White House again. This story is just so lame. If Bush had any balls, he really would have said "fuck off" instead of cowering like the Pussy he is. This article is totally flawed.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

MAR 30, 2007 08:18 AM

chikinhammr said:
This article is totally flawed.



No, your argument is flawed. Every one of your points have been addressed and debunked at length already in the thread. Happy reading, then get back to us.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 30, 2007 08:58 AM

chikinhammr said:
Let me prelude this before I get bombarded with hateful replies. I hate George W.Bush, but I am neither a Republican nor Democrat. The President of the United States has the right and privilege to fire Federal Prosecutors for any reason he or she wishes. These Prosecutors are hired by Presidents based on their politics, and their politics are a perfectly legitimate reason to terminate them. There is nothing sinister about this stupid story. Bill Clinton, a liberal favorite, fired 93 Federal Prosecutors in his first six months in office and nobody said jack shit about it. If Democrats want to bitch about this now, they need to expect scrutiny when it's their turn in the White House again. This story is just so lame. If Bush had any balls, he really would have said "fuck off" instead of cowering like the Pussy he is. This article is totally flawed.



You know what, I'm totally convinced now. I wasn't the first 314 times this was stated, but now I completely see how the situations are analogous. Thank you for showing me the way, sir.

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