Thank California for violating peoples rights.

artpie said:

Sooo... speaking of context, can you explain to me how you jumped from self defense to murder without blinking a fucking eye. I don't give a fuck if you did just get mugged. If your wallet is worth more than a persons life you are no better than the person who would mug you at gun point.
After all you spouting about "law abiding citizens" in this thread, for you to imply that murder might be an ok option is amazing. If nothing else, it is why you lose this debate. You Sir, do not get to have any kind of gun you want.

Glassmachine said:

It's a nice idea that I don't think works out practically.

Distributing guns isn't as neat and tidy a concept as simply evening out power by making sure everyone's got one. I think we'd probably both agree that an ideal society is a trillion miles away from that kind of metaphorical mexican standoff, anyway.

Me, I'm under no illusions about the voice and power that I have as an ethnic minority in England. And while I'm pretty god-damned aggreived about a thousand or so government policies - as long as I'm not allowed a gun, the guy next door to me isn't allowed a gun and your average bobby on the beat isn't allowed a gun - I can live with UK gun laws.

Andvari said:

Which makes your point about guns...how?

Dark_Templar said:

When they exit the burning tank, you shoot them

And let us not forget the 50. Cal, it probably can't dent a tank but it can pass into an APC

Just as a side note Gasoline burns to fast and does not have very adequate consistency for such purposes (has a tendency to run off of target). It does good to mix with Motor Oil and Sugar to thicken up. This is a Molotov Cocktail.

Subrosa said:

Search warrants must be approved by a neutral magistrate and must be based on probable cause. If the search warrant is not based on probable cause, then any evidence siezed as a result of it is fruit of the poisonous tree and is generally excluded.