SomeKid said:
Man, you can't have Christmas without the Christ. IT"S THE BIRTH OF JESUS. So tell me, how many non-Christians celebrate Christmas? And then tell me how a song celebrating the nativity isn't really Christian. I want to hear this.

you very explicitly deny that it is possible to do just what I and a lot of other people do: have Christmas without Christ. I get that you may not have intended to do so, but you did. So you were set straight. S'all.

And for the record, I would argue that while Christmas started out as a religious holiday it's moving in a secular direction and it's my hope that within my lifetime the religious aspect of the holiday will be largely nonexistent. (Yes, indeed, the liberal War on Christmas strikes again!) But we'll see.

Ascanius

USA

October 2006

NOV 17, 2006 10:31 PM

Yeah, I concede that that second post was a little over the top, but there were only three posts responding to it before I posted again and tried to felsh my ideas out a little better. I mean, I'm really not trying to be argumentative, and I did get some very good replies to my later posts, but I got a lot more replies to what was, on my part, a knee jerk response. But, you're right. I concede that I was 100% wrong in the post you cite above. I don't think it invalidates what I went on to say when challenged, though. Rather than say "You can't have Christmas without Christ," what I meant and should probably have said was that non-Christians should never be forced to or feel obligated to celebrate Christmas. So thanks for calling me out on that, and I think we've all said all we have to say, yeah?

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

NOV 17, 2006 10:52 PM

RudieCantFail said:
Is it just me or does that doll look like Will Ferrell?

-TM

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN

July 2003

NOV 17, 2006 10:53 PM

Fair enough.

Otoki

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

NOV 19, 2006 05:10 AM

SomeKid said:
Yeah, I concede that that second post was a little over the top, but there were only three posts responding to it before I posted again and tried to felsh my ideas out a little better. I mean, I'm really not trying to be argumentative, and I did get some very good replies to my later posts, but I got a lot more replies to what was, on my part, a knee jerk response. But, you're right. I concede that I was 100% wrong in the post you cite above. I don't think it invalidates what I went on to say when challenged, though. Rather than say "You can't have Christmas without Christ," what I meant and should probably have said was that non-Christians should never be forced to or feel obligated to celebrate Christmas. So thanks for calling me out on that, and I think we've all said all we have to say, yeah?

Thank you very much for admitting to it. It'd be nice if everyone was mature enough to do so, so we wouldn't end up with drawn-out debates on things that were never meant to be debated...

OctoberSeven

Downers Grove, IL

December 2002

NOV 20, 2006 07:47 PM

RudieCantFail said:
This company needs to come out with a Jesus action figure for little boys. After all, they wouldn't want to convert the heathens only to go and have them catch teh ghey by playing with dolls.

GI Jesus:

Crucify this, mutha fuckas!!!