NEWS: PETA: Creeping Me Out More

Not as ignorant as asumptions.

Of course I'm generalizing! If I was to take it on a case by case basis, discuss every vegitarian and vegan that I have ever come into contact with making my point becomes lost in a prohibative amount of inconsequential information. I'm generalizing the majority, there are always exceptions, that was a given.

As an informed, educated omnivore who knows his sources, knows butchery every stage of and has been involved in the raising of animals for food (on a small farm), I don't much like the generalization that I (and all meat eaters) eat fast food and buy hormone pumped meat at the supermarket, but I understand why people think that.

If you want to argue the point, argue the point. Don't simply dismiss my argument because you think I'm making generalizations.

Bio-chemically engineered meat? No thank you. I'll stick with good old fashioned dead cow.

Isn't gyros meat the answer to what PETA is looking for? If I'm not mistaken, that is grown directly on the specialized greasy spoon upright bio-rotisserie.

If it were possible to create a reasonable substitute for meat in a lab, you'd think it'd also be possible to create a more reasonable substitute for cheese than Velveeta, or a more reasonable substitute for Nick Nolte than Gary Busey.

Ok, I'm done being dumb for now.

- bz

I think it's a good idea. This actually could be revolutionary technology.

i dunno. i eat tofu regularly; with the right recipe, it can be quite tasty, even meat-like. but it's not meat, and it doesn't taste like meat--not enough to hit the spot when i'm craving a fat, juicy cheeseburger.

Chances are, that "old fashioned dead cow" has been bio-chemically engineered.

Apart from the issues of the ethical treatment of animals (...ETA), becoming a vegetarian is one of the best ways to reduce your carbon footprint.

Not only from reducing animal feed, animal flatulence, it also brings the 'meat to market', thus reducing transport costs and pollution.

A good idea.

I'm stop eating animals when they stop tasting so good.

I don't object to eating meat, on principle. I do not eat it, but that is my choice.

I do object to people being ignorant about the effects of factory farming, and justifying their ignorance by saying "we're at the top of the food chain and can eat whatever we want."

If humans are at the top of the food chain, then I challenge you to go out and kill an undomesticated animal without a gun (yep, you can even have a knife, even though the animal doesn't) and butcher it yourself.

Yeah, most people don't do this. But if you are most people, stop claiming to be a "predator." There is nothing predatory about the drive through. I can fully respect people who make the effort to buy meat from their local butcher and cook it themselves, but if you are sitting at Wendy's talking about being at the "top of the food chain," well that is, frankly, just plain stupid. Someone handed you a product that was shipped from a factory where a domesticated animal was herded and slaughtered with no hunting involved. You are NOT a predator, you are a consumer of a product. Plain and simple.

The only problem with this statement is that I would then challenge you and all the other vegies to go out and gather your own food or grow it all yourself.

If lions could invent weapons to help them hunt they would.

Sorry I am exausted but this line of reasoning is silly.

i don't think the argument is silly in the context in which it was presented. BlueRabbit's point isn't that all meat eaters should kill their own food (at least, i don't think it was). she's arguing against a point that a lot of meat eaters make--that the natural world justifies the meat that they eat through the fact that humans are 'at the top of the food chain'. her point, as i read it, is that the meat that most humans eat has very little to do with the natural world; and that therefore, the natural world does not necessarily justify the meat that most people eat.

I think Colinism was asking BlueRabbit to farm without any tools or purchased seeds as she asked meat eaters to go hunting without tools.

Making it to the top of the food chain was accomplished by brain power as humans did not have claws, sharp teeth, superior eyesight, small, or hearing. BlueRabbit has insisted that years of civilization be surrendered for her example to be meaningful.

I don't eat meat because it takes forever for me to digest.
But I won't refuse a New York Ribeye when it's offered to me, especially if there is A-1 on the table. I'm no fool.

Tabasco's steak sauce is WAY better.

I can't do spicy.

Blasphemy!

Both of you are barbarians! You never cover a good cut of meat with that stuff.

Quite correct, thank you for getting it.