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Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

MAY 10, 2008 03:25 PM

Yeah, CAN you kill a dog by blowing it up with some shit you're supposed to get rid of in a safe and responsible manner? Sure! SHOULD you kill said dog? No. Should you laugh at it? Unless you're a complete fucking douchebag whose mother gave birth to a retarded fucking jerkoff with no respect for life or even rudimentary ideas about morality, the answer is NO. Yeah, and the cops may be a paramilitary organization, but respect is earned, and the authority granted them does not also grant any moral ascendancy (obviously) over "us". (The weak, pathetic idiots they're supposed to protect.) They're just men and women, same as you and me. I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot about how much force is necessary, proper procedure, blah, blah, blah. Again, CAN you beat the fuck out of three suspects while you're arresting them? Sure. SHOULD you beat the fuck out of said suspects? No. You are not the judge, jury or the executioner in this case. We pay you (that's right, tax dollars pay your salary, PUBLIC servant) to keep people like that from hurting anybody else and to see that justice can properly seen to by other agencies, not to reduce them to a bloody pulp cuz it's right and proper...

You fucking assholes make me sick...

puke puke puke

OpticNerve

OpticNerve

Vancouver, BC
November 2003

MAY 10, 2008 03:26 PM

Is it just me or are the videos of soldiers torturing/killing small animals, a sure sign of burdgeoning serial killers, troubling other people?

willam9

willam9

Philadelphia, PA
January 2008

MAY 10, 2008 03:36 PM

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Last summer, I volunteered with the local Jay-Cees to put on the local fireworks for the 4th of July. While we were setting up, a group of SW Florida's "finest" came speeding through where we had a truck load of fireworks, hit one of our vehicles, ran over some of our equipment, then, when he finally stopped, he began harassing us about our permit (which was perfectly in order), and barking "Do you know who you're talking too?" and other incredibly insane bullshit.



just curious, how big was the town you were in? it seems like the professionalism of police and how well they treat people tends to be inversely proportionate to the size of the city/town they work in...excluding the above story.

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

MAY 10, 2008 04:25 PM

SnowgodCCR said:

motorfirebox said:

RudieCantFail said:
I'm confused... Did they shoot something at the dog, or did it step on a mine? It was hard to tell from the video. Either way, they're still assholes for laughing at the poor animal's misery.


i can't be sure, but i think they were performing ordinance disposal on an IED. as far as laughing at it, well, worse things have certainly happened.



Name a worse thing that has happened to that poor dog. That dog could have been some kid's only companion in a war-torn city, and some fucking coward blew it up, way to fuel the other side.


i honestly don't care about the dog, and i don't care that the kid--if he existed--lost his pet. it sucks for him, and i'd be upset if i were that kid, but i'm not that kid and i, personally, find it somewhat backwards and asinine to worry about the dog (or the kid) when there are so many more terrible things happening everywhere in the world.

likewise, i find it somewhat silly to get mad at the troops for laughing at the dog, when there are so many larger questions in relation to such matters as why the troops are there in the first place. furthermore, i feel that it shows a lack of compassion and perspicacity on the part of those getting mad at the soldiers. they're doing jobs which require a callous mindset; they have to be ready to kill people, which means that the well-being of some random dog really can't be allowed to register.

as far as RudieCantFail's point about torturing animals, there's a huge, huge difference between laughing at the Wile E. Coyote-like demise of some random dog, and deriving enjoyment from purposefully and methodically causing pain to an animal you've captured. for one, they involve completely different types of enjoyment--you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.

Shiny_metal_ass

Shiny_metal_ass

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 10, 2008 04:28 PM

willam9 said:

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
Last summer, I volunteered with the local Jay-Cees to put on the local fireworks for the 4th of July. While we were setting up, a group of SW Florida's "finest" came speeding through where we had a truck load of fireworks, hit one of our vehicles, ran over some of our equipment, then, when he finally stopped, he began harassing us about our permit (which was perfectly in order), and barking "Do you know who you're talking too?" and other incredibly insane bullshit.



just curious, how big was the town you were in? it seems like the professionalism of police and how well they treat people tends to be inversely proportionate to the size of the city/town they work in...excluding the above story.



Well, there are a series of small to mid sized cities south of Tampa along Florida's West coast. The place I was doing fireworks at was on one of the barrier islands, population probably around 30,000. Population density here is pretty low, but considering it's a string of communities on barrier islands in the Gulf of Mexico, I would not classify the area as po-dunk. Go a few miles east of the interstate, and we have a totally different story.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 10, 2008 04:33 PM

Shiny_Metal_Ass said:
I would not classify the area as po-dunk. Go a few miles east of the interstate, and we have a totally different story.




Hey there, Mr. Metal Man... You got a purdy mouth.

pagnaet

pagnaet

Amarillo, TX
March 2005

MAY 10, 2008 04:36 PM

FTR never ceases to disgust me. Mission accomplished, sir; Im ready to vomit.

However, I dont fault the soldiers in the video. It was probably a mine they spotted or something, and either set charges, or it just went off. Either way, poor poochie got exploded. I dont know about you, but Im not chasing a stray dog away from a bomb, animal rights be damned.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 10, 2008 04:40 PM

pagnaet said:
FTR never ceases to disgust me. Mission accomplished, sir; Im ready to vomit.

However, I dont fault the soldiers in the video. It was probably a mine they spotted or something, and either set charges, or it just went off. Either way, poor poochie got exploded. I dont know about you, but Im not chasing a stray dog away from a bomb, animal rights be damned.



RudieCantFail said:
Either way, they're still assholes for laughing at the poor animal's misery.

SergeantPsycho

SergeantPsycho

Hampton, VA
January 2007

MAY 10, 2008 04:49 PM

willam9 said:

SergeantPsycho said:
I'm just curious, in the Philadelphia story, how is it that the Asshole Fuckfacery only starts after the shooting?



yeah, so some asshole shoots a cop who was well known and liked in the neighborhood leaving a wife and young children behind (i guess getting killed while trying to stop a robbery doesn't count as protecting the public). then, four guys shoot three people on a sidewalk...i'm also kinda curious how it was the cops who got the aff nod? i'm not saying what they did was ok in any way, it just seems a little weird that they make it to the list after three unarmed people get shot.

when i was younger i thought it was cool to hate cops, too. then i moved into a neighborhood bordering on one of the worst in philly. it was amazing how quickly that led me to develop an appreciation for the cops in my town.



I apologize for not making my point clear enough. My fault. What I'm getting at is that, how come the four beating "victims" who just shot some people (it seems, for no reason) aren't being labeled as Asshole Fuckfaces? Call me Hammurabi, but I think this time the beating wasn't just justified, it was deserved.

Oh and for the record, I respect police officers. They do a dangerous job for not a lot of pay. (Though it saddens me when I see a cop car parked in a handicap spot)

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

MAY 10, 2008 05:02 PM

Despite whatever when wrong, the video was great- much better picture quality- and the new format was fun. I've got to ask- were these guys related to Bush? They have the same ears!!! or is it a Texas thing...
Corrective rape? Who the !@$# came up with that...I'm thinking that won't make men seem a whole lot more appealing to women that prefer women...I thought that country had their act more together now...
"To protect and serve" needs to be changed from the looks of things...the Police in this country are just getting out of hand...it officially has made it from coast to coast now...
Refusing aid when your country has sustained damage like that is pretty dumb...methinks they are concerned about the wrong things...
(off subject question-was any aid offered to the U.S. after Katrina?)

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:03 PM

SergeantPsycho said:

Call me Hammurabi, but I think this time the beating wasn't just justified, it was deserved.



And it's okay for the cops to decide that and administer the punishment? Even the Hammurabi Code contemplated some type of tribunal for that.

strndniowa

strndniowa

Grimes, IA
May 2007

MAY 10, 2008 05:18 PM



I apologize for not making my point clear enough. My fault. What I'm getting at is that, how come the four beating "victims" who just shot some people (it seems, for no reason) aren't being labeled as Asshole Fuckfaces? Call me Hammurabi, but I think this time the beating wasn't just justified, it was deserved.

Oh and for the record, I respect police officers. They do a dangerous job for not a lot of pay. (Though it saddens me when I see a cop car parked in a handicap spot)




Have you seen the damn video? That was just out of hand- the police are supposed to capture and restrain a SUSPECT- not administer a beat down..this isn't JUDGE DREDD- this is America in 2008...

Shiny_metal_ass

Shiny_metal_ass

I'm lost
October 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:21 PM

bald_eagle said:

SergeantPsycho said:

Call me Hammurabi, but I think this time the beating wasn't just justified, it was deserved.



And it's okay for the cops to decide that and administer the punishment? Even the Hammurabi Code contemplated some type of tribunal for that.



I would call it vigilantism at best and anarchistic at worst.

Eye for an eye and I decide.

surreal

robot

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:26 PM

motorfirebox said:
as far as RudieCantFail's point about torturing animals, there's a huge, huge difference between laughing at the Wile E. Coyote-like demise of some random dog, and deriving enjoyment from purposefully and methodically causing pain to an animal you've captured. for one, they involve completely different types of enjoyment--you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.




And finding either of them as enjoyable or funny is the sign of a fucking sick mind.

willam9

willam9

Philadelphia, PA
January 2008

MAY 10, 2008 05:28 PM

strndniowa said:
Refusing aid when your country has sustained damage like that is pretty dumb...methinks they are concerned about the wrong things...
(off subject question-was any aid offered to the U.S. after Katrina?)



i do believe cuba offered and we said no thanks...

willam9

willam9

Philadelphia, PA
January 2008

MAY 10, 2008 05:32 PM

here's a link to that story. bush said it had no politics to it then his big fat mouth piece brought them right back in.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:38 PM

coyotemike said:

motorfirebox said:
as far as RudieCantFail's point about torturing animals, there's a huge, huge difference between laughing at the Wile E. Coyote-like demise of some random dog, and deriving enjoyment from purposefully and methodically causing pain to an animal you've captured. for one, they involve completely different types of enjoyment--you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.




And finding either of them as enjoyable or funny is the sign of a fucking sick mind.



+1

You can't tell the difference between a cartoon and a real, living organism?

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:40 PM

strndniowa said:
Refusing aid when your country has sustained damage like that is pretty dumb...methinks they are concerned about the wrong things...
(off subject question-was any aid offered to the U.S. after Katrina?)



Yes; quite a lot.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

MAY 10, 2008 05:45 PM

motorfirebox said:

SnowgodCCR said:

motorfirebox said:

RudieCantFail said:
I'm confused... Did they shoot something at the dog, or did it step on a mine? It was hard to tell from the video. Either way, they're still assholes for laughing at the poor animal's misery.


i can't be sure, but i think they were performing ordinance disposal on an IED. as far as laughing at it, well, worse things have certainly happened.



Name a worse thing that has happened to that poor dog. That dog could have been some kid's only companion in a war-torn city, and some fucking coward blew it up, way to fuel the other side.


i honestly don't care about the dog, and i don't care that the kid--if he existed--lost his pet. it sucks for him, and i'd be upset if i were that kid, but i'm not that kid and i, personally, find it somewhat backwards and asinine to worry about the dog (or the kid) when there are so many more terrible things happening everywhere in the world.

likewise, i find it somewhat silly to get mad at the troops for laughing at the dog, when there are so many larger questions in relation to such matters as why the troops are there in the first place. furthermore, i feel that it shows a lack of compassion and perspicacity on the part of those getting mad at the soldiers. they're doing jobs which require a callous mindset; they have to be ready to kill people, which means that the well-being of some random dog really can't be allowed to register.

as far as RudieCantFail's point about torturing animals, there's a huge, huge difference between laughing at the Wile E. Coyote-like demise of some random dog, and deriving enjoyment from purposefully and methodically causing pain to an animal you've captured. for one, they involve completely different types of enjoyment--you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.



surreal

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

Redding, CA
December 2005

MAY 10, 2008 05:45 PM

coyotemike said:

motorfirebox said:
as far as RudieCantFail's point about torturing animals, there's a huge, huge difference between laughing at the Wile E. Coyote-like demise of some random dog, and deriving enjoyment from purposefully and methodically causing pain to an animal you've captured. for one, they involve completely different types of enjoyment--you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.




And finding either of them as enjoyable or funny is the sign of a fucking sick mind.


Ick. Seriously.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

MAY 10, 2008 05:50 PM


motorfirebox said:
you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny; you torture animals because it satisfies a desire.


motorboxfire, I dont think we can be friends anymore.



oh, we werent friends? cool, lets stay that way.

Hunkpapa

Hunkpapa

United Kingdom
June 2004

MAY 10, 2008 05:50 PM

motorfirebox said:
you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny;



I don't, because it's not.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAY 10, 2008 05:58 PM

motorfirebox said:
you laugh at a dog getting blown up because it's funny;



Sure, if you're a sociopath. There might be "more important things" in the world than the death of one dog, but that doesn't make this any less odious and worthy of disdain. Personally, I find that I can care about more than one issue at a time, and just because this bothers me doesn't mean I care any less about any larger-scale problems in the world. Anyone who possesses such a callous disregard for another living being is no one I respect.



motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

MAY 10, 2008 06:02 PM

coyotemike said:
And finding either of them as enjoyable or funny is the sign of a fucking sick mind.


yes, that's quite true. in the case of the soldiers, however, much of that sickness can likely be attributed to external factors drawn from a list that includes the following: shooting people, being shot at, watching friends get blown up, almost getting blown up oneself, spouse/family issues brought on by being gone for a year or more, and too many MREs.

"support the troops" means more than just saying "i support the troops". it doesn't mean you should approve of their actions when they laugh at an exploding dog (for instance), but it does mean that your response should be a little more deeper and thoughtful than "OMG U SOLDIERS R SICK FUCKS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU". show some compassion for guys who are in such a terrible place that an exploding dog seems funny by comparison.

coyotemike

coyotemike

Tuvalu
May 2006

MAY 10, 2008 06:04 PM

motorfirebox said:

coyotemike said:
And finding either of them as enjoyable or funny is the sign of a fucking sick mind.


yes, that's quite true. in the case of the soldiers, however, much of that sickness can likely be attributed to external factors drawn from a list that includes the following: shooting people, being shot at, watching friends get blown up, almost getting blown up oneself, spouse/family issues brought on by being gone for a year or more, and too many MREs.

"support the troops" means more than just saying "i support the troops". it doesn't mean you should approve of their actions when they laugh at an exploding dog (for instance), but it does mean that your response should be a little more deeper and thoughtful than "OMG U SOLDIERS R SICK FUCKS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU". show some fucking compassion for guys who are in such a terrible place that an exploding dog seems funny by comparison.



I wasn't talking about the soldiers.

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