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Tiwaz

Tiwaz

Germany
July 2006

NOV 11, 2007 07:30 PM

Formus said:
I care a lot more about people who are facing poverty than people who make way more than me. Don't most of you? That doesn't justify the studios' actions, but it is nonetheless true.

That's fine, but please take this into consideration. And also note the numerous people who have pointed out the truly "average" writer is a middle class citizen. You wouldn't decry other middle class professionals who choose to strike? Would you?

we3_pirate

we3_pirate

I'm lost
July 2007

NOV 11, 2007 07:32 PM

Formus said:

Hunter said:
Shooting two sets a year for SG is totally my profession.
And I'm just being honest about my feelings on the matter. I care a lot more about people who are facing poverty than people who make way more than me. Don't most of you? That doesn't justify the studios' actions, but it is nonetheless true.



But the vast, vast majority of writers don't make way more than you. Which is the entire point of the criticism.



Head, meet wall. Commence with the banging.


_kungfoo_

_kungfoo_

Omaha, NE
April 2005

NOV 11, 2007 07:40 PM

Hunter said:
Shooting two sets a year for SG is totally my profession.
And I'm just being honest about my feelings on the matter. I care a lot more about people who are facing poverty than people who make way more than me. Don't most of you? That doesn't justify the studios' actions, but it is nonetheless true.



There are a lot of people facing possible financial troubles. The entire economy of Los Angeles and Southern California may/will be affect by this strike (if it goes on long enough). But that does include the writers, the majority of which are middle-cast at best. I really think you're just pigeonholing people now, and maybe just in an attempt to defend an article based upon a subject you may have wanted to read up on bit more than you did before tackled it.






Beside that, I've gotta say, that this;

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.



...was pretty misogynistic, and actually, just fucking pathetic. That's all you could get your brain to come up with?

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

NOV 11, 2007 07:42 PM

emotedcreations said:

KingHELL said:

thefreak said:

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.


You know, you can disagree w/her all you want, but was that really necessary?


About as necessary as the article that spawned it, and twice as well-researched.

No, you shouldn't have made that comment no matter how much you disagree with her. It's a needless personal attack.


"I'VE SEEN U NEKKID ON TEH INTERWEB SO THERE4 U DON'T HAV A BRANE SO STFU AND SPREAD TEH LEG!"

That's basically what it boiled down to.

Was the article entirely accurate? No. That's been covered.

Do I agree w/everything Hunter said? No, some of it seemed rather self-serving, to be honest.

Was it an overall honest attempt @putting another opinion on the situation out there? I think so. And, might I add, it was a lot better than some of the asinine and illiterate responses from the anti-WGA crowd I've seen in these threads.

But am I going to slight her (or any other SG's, for that matter) opinion because they're a "professional nudie girl?" No, because I didn't know being an SG was a well-paying career, and that the ladies here have absolutely no need for regular jobs in their respective lives. So, the term "profession nudie girl" is misguided @best.

Also, I'm not a pompous prick.

-TM

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

NOV 11, 2007 07:47 PM

thefreak said:
Also, I'm not a pompous prick.

-TM



Don't sell yourself short, man. This is America, you can be anything you want. I believe in you.

KingHELL

KingHELL

Portland, OR
July 2003

NOV 11, 2007 07:48 PM

Hunter said:
Shooting two sets a year for SG is totally my profession.
And I'm just being honest about my feelings on the matter. I care a lot more about people who are facing poverty than people who make way more than me. Don't most of you? That doesn't justify the studios' actions, but it is nonetheless true.


Man, imagine how much more you'd care about poor people if you made half what you're making now! Or just quit your job altogether! It's only keeping you from caring as much as you could. And if there's one thing this world needs more of, it's ill-informed people who are passionate about causes that they barely understand.

KingHELL

KingHELL

Portland, OR
July 2003

NOV 11, 2007 07:53 PM

KUNGFOO said:
...was pretty misogynistic, and actually, just fucking pathetic. That's all you could get your brain to come up with?

Can I get a "LAAAAAAAAME"?


Fine. You find a way to make the naked-girl/ass-covering line work. All of my writers are on strike.

KingHELL

KingHELL

Portland, OR
July 2003

NOV 11, 2007 07:56 PM

thefreak said:
"I'VE SEEN U NEKKID ON TEH INTERWEB SO THERE4 U DON'T HAV A BRANE SO STFU AND SPREAD TEH LEG!"

That's basically what it boiled down to.


Um, no. See, she's naked on this website. Which means she, y'know, shows her naked ass. But this time--and stay with me here--she said something dumb and a lot of people jumped on her for it, so she tried to cover her ass and pretend that she was only kidding. And this, mind you, is the exact same ass that she so frequently exposes, on this very website!


Also, I'm not a pompous prick.

-TM


I don't know, man. You sign every blog comment on a nudie site with your initials. The jury might be out on this one.

Hunter

Hunter

SUICIDEGIRL

New York, USA

NOV 11, 2007 08:14 PM

I wish I'd had more time to research this, it's true. I would not have accepted the NY Times' stats at face value. Sorry if people took my ribbing seriously. I don't decry the writers! But I don't decry Ellen Degeneres, either. Like I said, I'm not taking a side just yet.
I do think there are more sides to it than FTR's post showed, sides that need to be discussed. Maybe I'll try again when more developments happen. I used my "making fun of celebs" voice to write about this and people didn't like it. Live and learn. I'm still finding my proper voices for different subjects.
I'm not going to dignify personal attacks with a response.

Hunter

Hunter

SUICIDEGIRL

New York, USA

NOV 11, 2007 08:18 PM

I am, however, a little disappointed that nobody appreciated my lovingly rendered, erotic, exotic, unfortunately imaginary "World Without TV."

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

NOV 11, 2007 08:19 PM

the long list of cop-outs as to why this article stank were even less informed than the original piece.

while the exact reason for this has yet to be researched, i am especially peeved at the notion of your writers sitting in cafes with their laptops having "waaaay" more fun than 99% of everyone else.

TheFox

TheFox

Carrboro, NC
February 2006

NOV 11, 2007 08:20 PM

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.



You do realize you just insulted all the girls on this site, right?

Not to mention, your argument is irrelevant. You wanna tell Flux that she's not bright because she's a "professional nudie girl"? Or Nixon?

Some things should go unsaid.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

NOV 11, 2007 08:21 PM

TheFox said:

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.


You do realize you just insulted all the girls on this site, right?

Not to mention, your argument is irrelevant. You wanna tell Flux that she's not bright because she's a "professional nudie girl"? Or Nixon?

Some things should go unsaid.


failing to recognize when someone is just trying to be cute is less cute than failing to be cute.

TheFox

TheFox

Carrboro, NC
February 2006

NOV 11, 2007 08:27 PM

jason said:

TheFox said:
You do realize you just insulted all the girls on this site, right?

Not to mention, your argument is irrelevant. You wanna tell Flux that she's not bright because she's a "professional nudie girl"? Or Nixon?

Some things should go unsaid.



failing to recognize when someone is just trying to be cute is less cute than failing to be cute.



I wasn't trying to be cute... it was an honest mistake, considering the fact that it was a shitty attempt at a joke.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

NOV 11, 2007 08:29 PM

Wow, what a thread. shocked

KingHELL

KingHELL

Portland, OR
July 2003

NOV 11, 2007 08:29 PM

TheFox said:

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.



You do realize you just insulted all the girls on this site, right?

Not to mention, your argument is irrelevant. You wanna tell Flux that she's not bright because she's a "professional nudie girl"? Or Nixon?

Some things should go unsaid.


Yes, like this irrelevant comment. I'm not going to explain a joke three times over. The slow learners are just going to have to have someone read them my comments at the bottom of page nine.

Tiwaz

Tiwaz

Germany
July 2006

NOV 11, 2007 08:39 PM

Formus, I apologize for attributing this to you. That was supposed to be Hunter. My bad...

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

NOV 11, 2007 08:46 PM

KingHELL said:

TheFox said:

KingHELL said:
Maybe the fact that you're a professional nudie girl explains why this is the worst ass-covering I've ever seen in my life.



You do realize you just insulted all the girls on this site, right?

Not to mention, your argument is irrelevant. You wanna tell Flux that she's not bright because she's a "professional nudie girl"? Or Nixon?

Some things should go unsaid.


Yes, like this irrelevant comment. I'm not going to explain a joke three times over. The slow learners are just going to have to have someone read them my comments at the bottom of page nine.


the joke is losing air pressure... the joke is losing altitude... oh wait, wait,
OMG, KING HELL'S JOKE HAS CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! OH THE HUMANITY! OH NOES ITS FOLLOWED DIRECTLY BY THE LABORIOUS EXPLANATION, WHICH LOOKS LIKE... YES! THE EXPLANATION IS CRASHING INTO THE SECOND TOWER! OH MY GAWD, THIS IS A TRAGEDY FOR INTERNET COMEDY EVERYWHERE!

Argene

Argene

Charlotte, NC
June 2004

NOV 11, 2007 08:47 PM

Pretty pointless article.

Tiwaz

Tiwaz

Germany
July 2006

NOV 11, 2007 08:50 PM

KingHELL said:

thefreak said:
"I'VE SEEN U NEKKID ON TEH INTERWEB SO THERE4 U DON'T HAV A BRANE SO STFU AND SPREAD TEH LEG!"

That's basically what it boiled down to.


Um, no. See, she's naked on this website. Which means she, y'know, shows her naked ass. But this time--and stay with me here--she said something dumb and a lot of people jumped on her for it, so she tried to cover her ass and pretend that she was only kidding. And this, mind you, is the exact same ass that she so frequently exposes, on this very website!

Sweet, you're not a misogynist, you just made a really lame ass joke that should have been avoided simply due to the fact that it could/was very easily have been mistaken as an attack on her person. Problem is, you make lots of asinine comments on the boards, so it's hard to sort out the lame jokes from trite commentary. Next time try using italics... or better yet just leave the jokes alone.

Tiwaz

Tiwaz

Germany
July 2006

NOV 11, 2007 08:53 PM

attn_ho said:
the joke is losing air pressure... the joke is losing altitude... oh wait, wait,
OMG, KING HELL'S JOKE HAS CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! OH THE HUMANITY! OH NOES ITS FOLLOWED DIRECTLY BY THE LABORIOUS EXPLANATION, WHICH LOOKS LIKE... YES! THE EXPLANATION IS CRASHING INTO THE SECOND TOWER! OH MY GAWD, THIS IS A TRAGEDY FOR INTERNET COMEDY EVERYWHERE!

You put it better then I ever could. Kudos.

Syntropia

Syntropia

Oakland, CA
February 2004

NOV 11, 2007 08:59 PM

TheCoolerKing said:
I understand many people have jumped on you already for the main argument of the piece and whatever, enough valid points have been made on that front, so I won't bother..

Hunter said:
Do I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone who makes three times what I make? Sure I do.


But this seems flawed to me. It's apples and oranges, what does what someone makes relative to you, in a completely different field have to do with anything? So anyone making less than you deserves to fight for more but once they meet your exact level of compensation then they don't deserve to get a penny more? Regardless of their field, area of expertise and skill level?

Also, Syntropia may be the dumbest fucking guy I've ever seen of this site. Think about what that means... All the douchebags and halfwits that encompasses. I'm almost in awe...

And everything he says from this point on is only going to solidy that status... He'll probably never get topped.

Okay, time to go count my 200,000 bucks! The bank made its yearly delivery yesterday. Yay!



Tra la la.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

NOV 11, 2007 09:02 PM

attn_ho said:
the joke is losing air pressure... the joke is losing altitude... oh wait, wait,
OMG, KING HELL'S JOKE HAS CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! OH THE HUMANITY! OH NOES ITS FOLLOWED DIRECTLY BY THE LABORIOUS EXPLANATION, WHICH LOOKS LIKE... YES! THE EXPLANATION IS CRASHING INTO THE SECOND TOWER! OH MY GAWD, THIS IS A TRAGEDY FOR INTERNET COMEDY EVERYWHERE!



That's so funny, I'd ask you to start writing professionally, but what would be the point right now?

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

NOV 11, 2007 09:04 PM

Hunter said:
I do think there are more sides to it than FTR's post showed, sides that need to be discussed.



Frankly, I've heard better "other sides" to the abortion and Iraq War debates than I've heard on this topic.

KingHELL

KingHELL

Portland, OR
July 2003

NOV 11, 2007 09:04 PM

attn_ho said:
the joke is losing air pressure... the joke is losing altitude... oh wait, wait,
OMG, KING HELL'S JOKE HAS CRASHED INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER! OH THE HUMANITY! OH NOES ITS FOLLOWED DIRECTLY BY THE LABORIOUS EXPLANATION, WHICH LOOKS LIKE... YES! THE EXPLANATION IS CRASHING INTO THE SECOND TOWER! OH MY GAWD, THIS IS A TRAGEDY FOR INTERNET COMEDY EVERYWHERE!


Heh. Point taken.

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